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and this is what the US, Rome and others do business with?

January 26, 2016

http://news.yahoo.com/amnesty-dozens-juvenile-offenders-face-death-iran-000216477.html

 

wow, trading … making deals … doing business with such ruthlessness. hard to believe anyone with a conscience would do business with such barbarism, such lack of love and understanding … such violent and insidious beliefs and practices.

 

oh, that’s right … how could we let this slip our mind … the roman pontiff says that christianity and islam worship the same god.

 

hmm … that explains quite a lot.

 

 

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  1. opheliart permalink

    ATTENTION: let it be known that I, L Thiel, do not condone, nor am I involved in, any business transactions with this kind of ruthless and barbaric governance. those murders … the blood of those children is NOT on my hands.

  2. opheliart permalink

    thank you, charles … a bit of air clearing on this topic (after my “grrr” in a previous comment regarding rns 😉

    http://www.religionnews.com/2016/01/25/presidential-candidates-extreme-abortion-positions-distort-growing-consensus-commentary/#comments

    • opheliart permalink

      the point in this posting is truly to clear the air … some. and, atheists and catholics are more alike than they realize 😀
      seriously, all those spending enormous amounts of time and money in these protests when they could be helping women to not get pregnant (abused/situations of being raped … child welfare cases which are many, too many, and women …)

      and we should share again: SPIRIT OF THE UNBORN CHILD MOVES ON.

      we understand there is dishonesty and carelessness and ruthlessness and poor parenting enough to keep all hands on deck, but … no man knows where Spirit goes. people say, oh, but I had a dream about my mama and she was in heaven. no, you do not know what is heaven. you were taught by your religious teachers about heaven but they were taught by men who lived thinking heaven is a place high beyond the clouds … an place unseen by mere mortals … while these men thought themselves immortal 😉 and so, they created a place to give rise to their own stations. your dream was likely symbolizing something that you do not yet understand as you do not understand this language, the language of the Spirit. another says, I hear the voice of my mama; she is in heaven. people hear voices all the time. how do you know you are not being deceived?
      as for the Spirit of child trying to grow … these go where God IS.

      • opheliart permalink

        and something very specific to the abortion topic, one that we have brought up numerous times:

        roman catholics/catholics/evangelicals … whatever you desire to be named … WHAT OF THE WOMEN ALLOWED TO DIE IN CATHOLIC RUN HOSPITALS? you know, the ones that refuse an abortion to a woman TRYING to give birth but cannot … not without losing her own life … and what do you catholics do? you allow her to die, and do you not care to think about the hypocrisy and denial of these acts? in too many aspects of your belief and practices you do not show yourselves VIRGINALLY. you are dishonest and parent poorly. also, what of the overpopulation going on in countries that live in poverty beyond your wildest dreams? you seem not to care about those suffering who are children … so many children living like mangy dogs. pregnant, raped women having become pregnant … very young women, girls some of them …
        you are pathetic in these instances. the child comes into a world of abuse and suffering at the hands of ruthless men and women and you wear blinders in denial of what you create.
        this is a sickness.

  3. opheliart permalink

    http://www.religionnews.com/2016/01/26/pope-francis-meets-irans-president-boost-nuke-deal-mideast-peace/#comments

    Jimmy Martello January 26, 2016 at 5:08 am
    The fact that this regime actively supports terrorism, genocide of the Jews, attacks embassies, kills woman and gays, and has the worse human rights record in the Middle East is reason enough for Europe and the Holy See to avoid contact and the exact reasons they are in contact.
    Europeans and the Church will never change

    ___________

    as we were saying …

    http://news.yahoo.com/amnesty-dozens-juvenile-offenders-face-death-iran-000216477.html

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doing-business-with-the-enemy-22-01-2004/

    • opheliart permalink

      you see, pope is not of the Christ; he is a whore for his industry and the industry of those like “it”. it does not care how it gets there … so long as it gets what it wants. lies … deception … manipulation … posing and propaganda … ads-ads-ads … the actor … pretending at something not remotely of the Christ … to keep itself powerful and to keep its name out there and to keep its pension, so to speak, engulfing for its own prize. these are bastard inmates fornicating with men like them, to use the language so few religions truly understand. the homosexual of the writhing is exactly what you see happening with rome and iran! US and iran! these men going in and having “sex” with his own … YES! and where ENOCH speaks of “they went in and defiled themselves” are these CHOICES … these decisions and how they behave within these where uncivil practice is commonality … where injustice is accepted … where heinous crimes are permitted and none of these ‘spiritual’ leaders are willing to refuse doing business … refusing to align with these men/industry/money-making deals.

      there you have it. the pope is not a man of the HOLY Spirit. he is a what? the church as man knows it is not the church spoken by JESUS in the Writings. the CHURCH of CHrist has not yet been realized. why? remove the stumbling blocks like the RCC and others like it and you will begin to HEAR its NAME … and it is not roman rule, or islamic rule … or any other male-dominant caliphate belief and practice. remember, the SPIRIT of the HOST cannot align (marry) with these men of insolent beliefs and practices. these men wage war on human civility, not striving for TRUTH in a just and salient LIGHT.

      remove them from their posts … now. they will have your children enlisted for the war … their war. what comes will be of much bloodshed. I was hearing this the moment the roman pontiff was ordained for this position and Arkimnel said, there is always hope … and we worked and worked and worked but what does he do? when he joined the political scene, it was understood what would then follow.

      (sigh) … not good. you will be paying for this with your children. you did it to yourselves. mothers will mourn … and the people will soon know who/what made its bed within this disease and lured so many in for destruction.

      • opheliart permalink

        ps … and we do not believe the pope was instrumental in the cuban enterprise. that is a lie, a propping him up for more of the same.

        DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!! investigate the truth about what happened in that … even obama does not know the truth about the cuban deal. lies amounting to more lies … and what did the pope (rcc) do regarding palestine and iran? it forced obama’s hand … and all acted too swiftly and without proper guidance and now, now so many will die because of these ignorances … and lies. last night, JESUS WEPT.

  4. opheliart permalink

    http://davidgushee.religionnews.com/2016/01/26/hillary-faith-iowa-love-christianity/

    gushee may be hood-winked by hillary but we are not. anyone can say anything—anything at all, but to silence a woman her own husband raped because it would interfere with her business … and the business of her husband, is not ethical, just, moral or in keeping with THE CHRIST. christian she may be … christian gushee may be … but it does not make either VIRGINAL in truth on the Word. hilary has been shaped to speak to audiences and has a quick focus in this and yes, her points are valid, but she is not addressing her past in a manner absolutely necessary to be trusted for future work! david gushee, I am surprised at your gullibility! your naivety! no wonder ethics is a misunderstood place of redemption in the lives of believers. the believers believe every “righted” (usually ads) word said to them without looking at the articles leading up to that position. hilary has not been truthful about her acts, david.

    you look at her goo-goo eyed and believe she will be a proper guide for an ailing nation and we say … really, gushee? it takes big money, big, puffy hair, nice suits and a lot of cover up to win and election? people learn to say what they think people want to hear. what we hear from these is … myopic, insulated rah-rah.

    like hilary, like pope fran, like so many others … you do business with lies. doing business with nations with some of the worst human rights records ever imaginable (TODAY!) is wearing blinders and saying: my deals and my business, what I think is important—my party affiliation—my side—my version of what is ethical— and my reputation and my titles—and my legacy—and my image as a player in the world is above the injustices and horrors … the torture and the murders … of these nations we shake hands with. damn! it’s on you, david gushee … you and hillary and the lot of you wallowing in your ignorance with these miscreants—these criminals!
    good luck to ya, gushee in THAT marriage.

    people who say things about judgement in the manner that I see hillary and the pope and others speaking … SILENCING PEOPLE, USUALLY THE VICTIMS, are often hiding something. beware of these, folks … they will attempt to break the momentum and assist evil in its attempts to go back to the same old same old … insignias. gushee has praised this current pontiff, believing he is honest and making real change. golly! how naive can you be? its all an act, david …

    I have seen pastors and priests misled by actors my whole life. when does it ever change? man and woman comes into the priest’s office. his wife is having an affair and the three sit down to discuss the problem … meanwhile, priest has no idea the husband is caught up in using cocaine and is why marriage is failing and wife seeks another. wife does not even know husband is using … she just knows things aren’t going well. the husband stays in the church playing the deceiver … never admitting his substance abuse to wife or priest and the woman gets condemned as the adulterer. gosh … the pastors and priests are often so caught up in their idea of an image of what they think should be and who is right and wrong, they miss the bigger picture … the greater problem.

    • opheliart permalink

      no change. business as usual except this time … this time, gushee, the clintons and all of america is going to feel the sting. what was it obama said about that iran deal? 97-98% of the world is for it? well, it seems I AM OF THE FEW NOT FOR IT—not shaking hands with evil. no, I will not do business with men murdering nine-years olds because they did not do exactly as these men thought was right. these are ignorant, diseased, misogynistic, corrupt, dishonest … indoctrinated … mentally incapacitated men …

      * and please take note of the comment by atheist max. when I challenged him, he resorted to twisting words,even putting words in my mouth—a sort of forced feeding to try to demean me, disparage my reputation, even flat out lying to get HIS way … all catholic mind weave (had seen and experienced this very behavior on other forums where catholics were peddling their holy see). but it did not work because I was not fooled by his stance, not even OF his belief system … he tried to use the same tactics on me that he used on the religionists. it doesn’t work as I am not of his shallow peddling and dishonest rhetoric, and so, we said that if he had to be here we would use him for a purpose and … that purpose was/is primarily to show where and how that mind operates. he is a fraud, however, david … and I sense another atheist is suspicious of his rants/comments and that flip-flopping he so often does (inconsistencies and contradictions and paddy wagoning) and knows that max is being paid as a _____ for ____. yep, and will call him out on this … but, look … look how these men wreck the discussion, throw it off course and instead of getting to the root of what you and I disagree on … pisses all over the stage like a man having drunk up all the vino at his son’s wedding … lol.

      come on, baby, bring it on! max is an ass and is now seriously in the way of real talk. someone, please tell him to bug off … someone please tell him to take his drunken diatribe somewhere more fitting his crimes.

  5. opheliart permalink

    http://www.religionnews.com/2016/01/26/pope-francis-meets-irans-president-boost-nuke-deal-mideast-peace/

    look at the two of them in the photo … proud sponsors of poor parenting. who in their right mind does business with a nation of brutal, dishonest and hypocritical oaths? the brutality, investment in terrorism … who/what shakes hands with BABYLON? false doctrine? the diseases of injustice, criminal minds and the love of punishment? denial of its illicit and derelict doctoring, pastoring … ?what kind of hospital is this? atheist, catholic, jew, evangelical, muslim, democrat or republican … ‘the church’ … whatever you desire to call yourself … you can have it. I DO NOT WANT YOUR BIG, FAT, WHORING OPERATIONS!

    it’s all yours, gushee … your shepherds, the pope and his men … all yours! I want nothing to do with what you are bringing on the children. is this what you teach in your “church” classes? pay into and support those who murder 9 year olds? beat and stone women … hang citizens like in the days of ignorance and rotten governance? no, I want nothing to do with your democracy or your church.

    http://news.yahoo.com/amnesty-dozens-juvenile-offenders-face-death-iran-000216477.html

    and this is what they teach in the business classes at college? these men will do nothing for those in their nations that are suffering … have you learned nothing? !

    unbelievable … what a f-ing sickness … money and power …

    in addition, any individual or group, party or institution canonizing and honoring plagiarists, sex offenders, liars, frauds (jp2), terrorists (junipero serra) … or merely permitting this as something to applaud is to be seriously questioned on his ethics … and his ability in any seat of civil leadership. this is NOT acceptable curriculum for children! and leadership that cannot see that these beliefs and practices are an outrage and to pander for votes or money or DEALs is being dishonest with the people … it’s false, maybe even illegal should any one bother to do his homework …

    • opheliart permalink

      not surprised the RCC would be thoroughly against freemasonry despite their own “secret” fraternal endeavors … (as well as the gr orthodox church as the two often fed from the same cup) … what surprised me is the islamic stance of believing freemasons were behind support of the jew … although, now that I think about the belief systems with hierarchal designs … I see where the jew would be a threat to these men desiring power and control.

      the following from wiki (note *):

      Many Islamic anti-Masonic arguments are closely tied to both antisemitism and Anti-Zionism, though other criticisms are made such as linking Freemasonry to al-Masih ad-Dajjal (the false Messiah).[100][101] Some Muslim anti-Masons argue that Freemasonry promotes the interests of the Jews around the world and that one of its aims is to destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque in order to rebuild the Temple of Solomon in *JERUSALEM.[102] In article 28 of its Covenant, Hamas states that Freemasonry, Rotary, and other similar groups “work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions …”[103]

      Many countries with a significant Muslim population do not allow Masonic establishments within their jurisdictions. However, countries such as Turkey and Morocco have established Grand Lodges,[104] while in countries such as Malaysia[105][106] and Lebanon[107] there are District Grand Lodges operating under a warrant from an established Grand Lodge.

      In Pakistan in 1972, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, then Prime Minister of Pakistan, placed a ban on Freemasonry. Lodge buildings were confiscated by the government.[108]

      Masonic lodges existed in Iraq as early as 1917, when the first lodge under the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE) was opened. Nine lodges under UGLE existed by the 1950s, and a Scottish lodge was formed in 1923. However, the position changed following the revolution, and all lodges were forced to close in 1965.[109] This position was later reinforced under Saddam Hussein; the death penalty was “prescribed” for those who “promote or acclaim Zionist principles, including freemasonry, or who associate [themselves] with Zionist organisations.”

      • opheliart permalink

        orthodox christians,

        you need to speak and speak now. your silence on these matters is showing your vagueness on your worth. you are not without stain. you are young in the us but this is no excuse for ignorance given your long history in christianity. we knew you … but you have lost credibility in burying your gifts, and denouncing —judging— accusing … falsely. hypocrisy is not a just cause in any language. let not your creeds be your cross … for it renders “the eucharist” insignificant. american greek orthodox, we know you desire to distance yourselves from the patriarchs of old … the bishops stiff-necked and un-redeeming … but you have a voice and you will be counted among the wicked if you do not do what is necessary to help the youth IN THIS DAY. paying into and supporting transactions that we know you know are indecent and not of the Christ … is paying into the disease. if you are unsure on what is wicked and what is of Life … go back to the beginning, before all those trestles.

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