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Excuse US … rome? Do you have a problem with the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

August 7, 2015

http://www.religionnews.com/2015/08/07/pope-francis-name-chicago-archbishop-cupich-top-u-s-ally-vatican-summit-family/

 

If these appointments are confirmed, it means Francis will have passed over more conservative candidates such as San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, an outspoken culture warrior and the U.S. hierarchy’s point man in the fight against gay marriage.

 

This is not an essay …

but your persistence on “your government being the law in the NATION OF THE UNITED STATES” is beginning to get undermining, degrading, harassing … criminal.

 

Do you hear this, rome? CRIMINAL. 

 

You have your government—yes? The United States of America has its government—yes? Are you forcing your FASCISM on the US? because it looks very much like you will not allow the US to govern without your positioning and your politics. We are weary of your whore-mongering, Vatican. Are you still crusading your PATRIARCHAL BELIEF SYSTEM? Your flat-minded-ignorant-lackluster-misogynistic arrogance on the citizens of the US?

 

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And for the US presidential candidates and lawmakers … US GOVERNMENT,

are you operating from rome and its Fascism? or are you a DEMOCRACY? where citizens are permitted to vote.

Do you hear this, lawmakers? Allow the people to vote.

Many of us are not interested in rome’s hell—do you get the picture?

 

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Peace and Love

 

 

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53 Comments
  1. opheliart permalink

    are the people the property of rome? do they own them? their hearts—their souls—their minds?

    it makes no sense to us for a nation called democracy to allow for this kind of abuse on its soul. the people should be permitted to vote—not only on these various topics which greatly affect not just their lives but the lives of their children … and it does affect the lives of others—their NEIGHBORS and all those around them. these men claiming knowledge and understanding—claiming their institution God’s mouthpiece is full of moths … eaten up with moldy venue and ghastly imagery that demeans the revelatory voice of TRUTH—it’s cognizance and its prudence.

    • opheliart permalink

      these are looking much like repeating venue … crimes against humanity … this is the demand of doctrine claiming absolute truth …

      but it reeks of insolence and dogmatic appeal … lusting for power, money … their obedience …

      what is the nation of the united states of america if it cannot tear itself away from the clutches of the old regime? rome …
      what is the nation of the united states of america if it cannot offer freedom from these old clutches … from the misogyny and the ignorance?

      • opheliart permalink

        it is a sorrowful sight … baffling at times … that nations continue to kiss the thrones of this errant place

  2. opheliart permalink

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/kasichs-reception-on-gay-marriage-important-126109300441.html

    “We need to give everybody the chance, treat everybody with respect and let them share in this great American dream that we have,” Kasich said, noting he recently went to his first gay wedding. “God gives me unconditional love, I’m going to give it to my family and my friends and the people around me.”

    • opheliart permalink

      God IS unconditional love … within the breath of light …
      these are baby steps which should be understood in the context of his position, or positioning

      do we think him sincere? yes, we sense his honesty here, but not all will be of this same

      where kasich needs to move if he is going to continue to use God in the manner that he is using God … advising against abusing God

      if given that unconditional love he says God gives him then you will see it throughout his decision-making process—HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE … this does not mean there is an anything goes perspective but a forgiving one, as well as ..

      addressing the RELIGIOUS ABUSES of all shapes, sizes and shades and not deny them or ignore them for ‘popularity’ purposes …

  3. opheliart permalink

    if the government of the united states of america continues to allow every DOCTRINE/THEOLOGY to obstruct movement in what we hear from politicians and its citizens: that great country america—the american dream …

    where will we find ourselves as a nation of redeemers? which has everything to do with IMPROVEMENT

    let us improve upon the acts of old … whether yesterday or yesteryear … one must be engaging to evolve for the wellness of mankind toward humanity aware

    • opheliart permalink

      the religionist thinks this is arbitrary talk as he holds his doctrine up, saying, we are the truth … but his sleeves are encrusted with the blood of past acts … as he is sold to these institutions

      take care of the high cholesterol diet, religionists 😉

  4. opheliart permalink

    “I just think it’s inappropriate to call people names.” carly fiorina

    maybe you should try reading the Writings, carly sweetie … AND your roman catholic doctrine!

  5. opheliart permalink

    any candidate that uses their religious doctrine as their trump card undermines those not of this same … so, carly dear and all you other religionists, shall we hold you accountable for your beliefs?

  6. opheliart permalink

    comment from the previous SPIR pub.— posted article

    re; boy scouts

    Dominic August 8, 2015 at 8:35 am
    Why the constant provoking of the Catholic Church by the gays? Does anyone believe the Church will succumb to gay pressures? It won’t, it can’t, and it is wise for the Church to stand its ground.

    —————–

    my first reaction was laughter then I realized … my gosh, this guy is truly in the dark

    talk to SNAP or bishopaccountability.org … or any male VICTIM of abuse—seminarian on down to the wee child

    but let’s make a distinction here—shall we … gay men in the priesthood (rc hierarchy) is not a new occurrence—active “gay” men is not new …
    as we stated in previous essays/comments … that to claim oneself gay is man desiring man, for why else would someone say he is gay … you see, at some point he said to himself: i like men sexually, or … sexually, I desire men over women.

    we have posted this question before:

    IF CELIBATE, HOW CAN A MAN CLAIMING HE IS GAY BE A ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIEST? automatically, he does not fit the role of this rc dogma … HE DOES NOT QUALIFY FROM THE GET-GO … so, look at what the rcc did with the gay priest at one school sent to serve in a parish in what one commenter described as a “nicer” part of town. make sense? no, contradictory …
    hypocritical, to say the least

    has anyone figured out that this just doesn’t jive? 😀 silly us for seeing through the robes … and the titles … and the continued shuffling of priests … not that we care if this particular man chooses to engage sexually with other men … that is his business, but the point is: he made a public statement announcing he is gay, meaning, he desires male … sexually … otherwise he would have said, if asked, I am without desire for sex—I AM A ROMAN CATHOLIC CELIBATE

    but the distinction we want to make, which dominic seems to be confused about (but of course his church to him can do no wrong 😉 … is, man saying he is gay is not necessarily representing the abusers and rapists in dominic’s church. he may have engaged in sex with young men from seminary on up ( with other seminarians—and from what many tell us, this is common), but this certainly does not mean he desires sex with sixteen-17 year-olds and younger, or would ever force, fondle or … you get the picture

    now …

    • opheliart permalink

      ask yourselves WHY the rc demands that their priests/hierarchy be “celibate” … but now does not ADMIT they harbor gays … hire gays … use gays … and abuse gays? the nj priest is a recent and clear example of what?

      deception

      the priest made a vow of celibacy but claims he is gay … takes a job in another place within the rcc—nothing changes his position. he does not change. the rcc does not change. the people are probably thinking: oh, how wonderful our church gave him a nicer house.

      so, what is the point of this “hallowed” celibacy? it’s a pretend is what it is 😀 and the dominics of the world say: my church, the infallible fortress … will never succumb to the gay pressure

      yah … um … not

      • opheliart permalink

        dude, man … in deep deep denial

      • opheliart permalink

        you see, they are not slapped with the discriminating against gays in the US … or lose their perks …

        nothing changes and the members of said church haven’t a clue what just happened

  7. opheliart permalink

    meanwhile … those priests having served many years not desiring man, woman … or child …
    are they wondering: hey, what about me?

    • opheliart permalink

      the rcc can’t afford to lose priests … and they cannot afford right now to look ‘bad’ … badder than they already look

      but then there’s cupich:

      1) “Sexual abuse of children is not happening in the church today. “

      EXCUSE US??? what of josef wesolowski and so many others? and this is the guy that pop fran picks for the FAMILY GET TOGETHER … ?

      hmm …

      ______________

      Clergy sex abuse victims blast new Spokane bishop

      Statement by David Clohessy, SNAP Executive Director, 314 566 9790

      (In a new interview with a Washington newspaper published today, Spokane’s new Catholic bishop discusses the church’s child sex abuse and cover up crisis.)

      Bishop Blasé Cupich endangers kids, hurts victims and misleads Catholics by mischaracterizing and minimizing the Catholic church’s horrific, on-going clergy sex abuse and cover up crisis.

      In this interview, Cupich makes three stunning and patently ridiculous claims.

      1) “Sexual abuse of children is not happening in the church today. “

      2) “The scandal is that, 30 years ago, the world of psychology, criminal law and the church didn’t handle the situation well. Society didn’t handle the situation well.”

      3) “Various institutions that work with kids that don’t have in place codes of conduct and training that we have in place.”

      Let’s look at all three of these claims.

      First, on the very day Cupich’s interview appeared, Illinois newspapers were reporting on the new guilty plea by a Chicago area predator priest, Fr. Alejandro Flores. He was ordained in 2009. He molested a boy in 2010. Ancient history? Hardly!

      Even worse, the local bishop’s top staff knew this predator had problems even before he was ordained. According to one newspaper: “Prosecutors say Catholic officials had some warning signs about Flores” because he “was caught with gay porn on his computer” and “some of the images appeared to be those of young boys.”

      So what did the Illinois bishop do? He warned no parishioners about this incident and went ahead and ordained Flores anyway.
      http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/2686150,Flores-plea-kane_AU090810.article

      The day before Cupich’s interview appeared in print, Fr. Joseph Fiala was arrested in Kansas for child sex crimes he allegedly committed in 2007 and 2008.

      We could go on and on and on.

      Every day, a blog called “The Abuse Tracker” posts dozens of news accounts from credible media outlets across the world about current clergy sex abuse and cover up cases. Most, sadly, involve Catholic clerics. (It’s available at BishopAccountability.org)

      Catholic officials can try mightily to distance themselves from pedophile priests when those priests are caught and admit guilt. But as long as Catholic officials continue to recruit troubled men to the priesthood and ordain them despite clear warning signs, this horrific, on-going crisis will continue.

      Second, Cupich claims, “The scandal is that, 30 years ago, the world of psychology, criminal law and the church didn’t handle the situation well. Society didn’t handle the situation well.”

      It’s hard to know where to start with this one. Sure, much of society has improved over the past three decades when it comes to child sexual abuse. But the Catholic church stands apart as the one institution that has attracted, harbored, protected and transferred more child predators – literally thousands of child molesting priests, nuns, bishops, seminarians, brothers and other staff – than any other.

      And while there certainly are too many abusive coaches and teachers, it’s nearly impossible to find one who has molested dozens or hundreds of kids because he or she was deliberately moved from place to place by irresponsible supervisors. Why? Because that happens most in the Catholic church, and always has.

      (Isn’t it sad to see an alleged spiritual leader implying “Heck, we’re no worse than other groups that caused children to suffer”?)

      Cupich disingenuously blames ‘psychology’ for part of the church’s crisis. He conveniently neglects to mention that if he and his colleagues had called the police about clergy child sex crimes (both known and suspected), hundreds of predator priests would be in prisons, not in therapy. He also obscures the fact that pedophile priests were deliberately sent for counseling to Catholic institutions where the top priority wasn’t protecting kids and ‘healing’ predators but keeping secrets. (With their vast resources, Catholic bishops could have sent their ‘troubled’ priests to the ‘best and brightest’ in the therapeutic community. Instead, however, they chose to protect themselves, their colleagues and their secrets by utilizing instead therapists who would help bishops conceal the crimes and give bishops the ‘recommendations’ to return pedophiles to ministry that bishops so desperately sought.)

      Third, Cupich claims that “various institutions that work with kids that don’t have in place codes of conduct and training that we have in place.” We challenge Cupich to stop the McCarthy smear tactics and specifically tell us what other institutions lack the supposed abuse programs that the Catholic church has allegedly adopted (albeit begrudgingly and belatedly). It’s just wrong to cast aspersions on an entire group – agencies and organizations that deal with kids.

      And we challenge the ludicrous notion that ‘codes of conduct’ are in any way effective when it comes to child sex crimes. Does Cupich honestly believe that, years ago, even one confused priest told himself, “Gee, I’m not sure sodomizing a child is right or wrong. My bishop doesn’t make me sign a ‘code of conduct’ forbidding child sodomy, so I guess I’ll go ahead and assault a little girl or boy today.”

      These “codes of conduct” are like much of the bishops’ response to this heinous scandal – it’s a smart PR move that makes people feel good and believe reform is happening. But it has no impact whatsoever in the real world.

      It’s also worth considering what Cupich doesn’t say. He never once acknowledges that the church’s rigid, all-male, secretive culture plays any role in this crisis. He never once admits that bishops ignore and conceal child sex crimes because they can (since in this monarchical structure, they answer to virtually no one).

      It’s misleading to talk about the crisis without mentioning its primary cause – the recklessness, callousness and deceit of bishops who repeatedly, knowingly and secretly transferred child molesting clerics to unsuspecting parishioners, and who shun victims, deceive reporters, stonewall police, intimidate witnesses, destroy evidence, fabricate alibis, and discredit whistleblowers.

      Finally, Cupich stresses the church’s “need to rebuild trust.” We respectfully disagree. The church needs to stop finger-pointing, excuse-making, and blame-shifting. The church needs to protect the vulnerable and heal the wounded. When that happens, trust will be restored.

      We agree with his statement that the church hierarchy is “more than the sins of our past.” Indeed, the church hierarchy is also, sadly, the sins of its present.

      (SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, is the world’s oldest and largest support group for clergy abuse victims. We’ve been around for 22 years and have more than 10,000 members. Despite the word “priest” in our title, we have members who were molested by religious figures of all denominations, including nuns, rabbis, bishops, and Protestant ministers. Our website is SNAPnetwork.org)

      Contact David Clohessy (314-566-9790 cell), Barbara Blaine (312-399-4747), Peter Isely (414-429-7259), Barbara Dorris (314-862-7688 home, 314-503-0003 cell)

      http://www.inlander.com/spokane/article-15558-taking-stock.html

      Wednesday, September 8, 2010

      Taking Stock – A new bishop promises to help renew the Catholic church in Spokane.

      Blase Cupich, bishop of the Catholic Diocese in Rapid City, N.D., had a good thing going. He’d spent 12 years in the small city of 125,000, building friendships and relationships. He’d raised $12.5 million to create a Catholic school and retreat center.

      But life’s direction can change quickly. The Catholic Church told him he needed to pack up his bags and become bishop in Spokane, a diocese battered by sex abuse scandals and bankruptcy.

      We sat down with Cupich (pronounced “soup-itch”) on Friday, the day of his installation to talk about the future of the Catholic Church in Spokane.

      INLANDER: Was it hard to reset your life like that?

      CUPICH: Sure it is. All of a sudden you’re told that you have to give up all of those ties and supports and relationships, and go to a place you’ve never been before. I had my own house and routine. All that’s gone.

      The Spokane diocese has been peppered by sexual abuse scandals.

      Sexual abuse of children is not happening in the church today. These are historical cases. The last time that we have a case of actual abuse of a child [in Spokane] is in the early ’80s. This is not anything that is happening now.

      The scandal is that, 30 years ago, the world of psychology, criminal law and the church didn’t handle the situation well. Society didn’t handle the situation well.

      Today, even, we have various institutions that work with kids that don’t have in place codes of conduct and training that we have in place. We would hope that the measures we are taking can be instructive to these other institutions.

      How should the Spokane Catholic Diocese deal with this wound?

      This diocese has called for victims to come forward for healing, and we will continue to do that. I have every intention of meeting personally with any victim of sexual abuse by a priest and will continue to reach out to them.

      I’m personally committed and I have a fairly good record with being able to do that.

      Because of the sexual abuse lawsuit settlement, the diocese has been hit with a major bankruptcy. Some parishes may have to be sold. How do you feel the Catholic Church in Spokane should deal with that issue?

      I think the financial future has a lot of uncertainty about it, simply because we don’t have the resources that we’ve had in the past to provide the infrastructure. We have no chancery office building. We rent a floor. We have cut back on our staff by about 75 percent. The bishop’s residence is gone and I’m living in a rectory here at the Cathedral. The future is uncertain. It’s in a very delicate situation. But we also remember two things: Our mission is not about finances. And secondly, we trust that we can place ourselves in the hands of God and we’ll get through this.

      Over the last 50 years, the percentage of Catholics who attend Mass weekly has gone from 75 percent to 45 percent. Why is that?

      The issue is complex. I think all mainline churches are suffering. First of all, society has changed in terms of mobility. With the greater mobility, people drift from their roots and so they begin to not feel as connected to an area they move into, and don’t get connected to their parish. The second reason, I think, is we are living in an era in which people are separating spirituality from religion. … And the sex abuse scandals have hurt us.

      How can that trend be reversed?

      We need to be more aggressive in our hospitality, when people move into our area. We have to go and find out what new Catholics in their area. [We need to help] people to see that their spirituality isn’t the fullest it can be if they don’t share it with others. And we need to rebuild trust. We’re more than a diocese that suffered bankruptcy. We’re more than the sins of our past.

      • opheliart permalink

        it’s looks much like the laypeople of the rcc are quite dim, or do not care …

  8. opheliart permalink

    we have read where catholics say: they may be gay or straight but they are chaste

    lol! delusion

    allow us a moment of communion:

    if a roman catholic bishop desires no sex with a man or a woman but he uses the parishioner’s money and other donations to build himself a lavish mansion …
    the WISDOM of the Writings teaches that the bishop is filled with lust … he is fornicating ‘within’ a bed of greed … where other MEN sleep … for it is a house of male dominion …

    a brothel, more or less

    • opheliart permalink

      the vatican is one such brothel

      OUR LORD WOULD NEVER BE FOUND WITHIN THIS HOUSE—never

      • opheliart permalink

        all the gimmicks and playing house with all the fancy duds and high living and freakish lauding of title is lust … fornication of the flesh and the RC/Vatican and its adherents haven’t a clue what any of this means …

  9. opheliart permalink

    I have been sitting on this for a little while, I shall now take it up and follow what Mi-ram says:

    oh, I cannot write what I hear … it’s of another Language. I can hear it within but I cannot write it.

    http://www.religionnews.com/2015/08/07/experts-say-governments-wont-isis-atrocities-genocide/#comments

    to simplify:

    those in danger must be moved … if they desire to move. if the people (by family) do not desire this, then they will become of what is. military force is not of our work. the women and children first with the rest to follow … those of this screed are to be responsible for the housing, care and food … education must come from the host countries.

    • opheliart permalink

      anyone caught giving these tormenters and demons ammunition or fuel for their brutality and destruction will be found guilty of the same.

  10. opheliart permalink

    it is our hope now that a few of the skeptics … unable to hear the words of the prophet on truth … have begun to see that the CHRIST was never intended for religious and political warring to gain control—demanding obedience to the ideologies —the theologies and doctrines of man … never was there to be an institution called “the church” headed by a man called the pope or any other hierarchal establishment, claiming absolute authority—denying all other voice … torturing, murdering, power-mongering … imprisoning and forcing their church teachings …

    to us, this is exactly what Christ warned us about—to not become enslaved to the wiles of man—his idolatry and histrionics … swearing oaths to institutional biases that overwhelm and capitulate …

    vocational priests, do you see … you argued for what purpose? for what did you argue your case? God is Spirit? or man as sole arbiter and infallible menace … come out—come out … you bury your gifts … your talents …

    look at ISIL … the invasion and the suffering … did your church do this? did the same evil that implores these callous miscreants … infect the nations when it could have been of Christ Worth? not rome’s aspirations … or any other form of hollow worship … desiring itself reign in place of the One? in place of Wisdom. … hmm … do you now see the babble … the carelessness and recklessness ? the abuses… still denied and covered over …? what did your institution unleash into a virginal world? did you not know … there are seasons?

    your patriarchs apologize for their cruel and wayward acts, but nothing changes in their style … their bigotry remains, along with their insolence
    they are whore-mongerers and schemers … doing all they can to hide their sickness

    and you pay homage to this? these are your leaders? sociopaths and thieves?

    it is time to move, priests …

    • opheliart permalink

      okay … black lives matter, what is your strategy? denying someone voice has done what for society? surely you know how this is …

      ask questions—tough questions, even … do your homework … you know the process—don’t you?
      ——————– pushing your way in someone’s face and demanding the platform that someone else has worked hard to reach is really not a decent strategy … you make yourselves look arrogant and insolent … a sort of gimme-gimme (I want it and I want it now!) … you have much to learn. who has taught you this physical way? who are your leaders that teach shoving and demanding the stage?

      well?

      • opheliart permalink

        no, we will never support this arrogance … anger, we understand … writing it out — art in the public square, we understand … even performance, but not VIOLENCE … not this type of behavior … pushy obstinate in your face trashy behavior … no … it reeks of failure

  11. opheliart permalink

    http://news.yahoo.com/end-epic-colorado-theater-shooting-trial-surprise-035853587.html

    this is far from over … isn’t that right, health care professionals? professors? families?

    • opheliart permalink

      it reminds us of the clergy sex abuse … no one was aware that clergy molested children? NO ONE??? no one knew anything about the mindset of these men? oh wait … yes … the bishops knew … and so did their superiors …

      So what did the Illinois bishop do? He warned no parishioners about this incident and went ahead and ordained Flores anyway.
      http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/2686150,Flores-plea-kane_AU090810.article

      ________________________________________________________________________________________
      we hope the holmes family can somehow involve themselves in the field of advocating for children struggling in a system that seems to breed mental illness … and we say seems to breed … as this is becoming more and more an issue … so, what’s causing it in young people? how is it going undetected? what are the signs that the health care professions miss? repeatedly? or that the system ignores-denies … turns away from …

  12. opheliart permalink

    practically everyday we read things like this:

    http://news.yahoo.com/texas-police-5-children-3-adults-found-dead-110223005.html

    and that’s only what’s in the news

    it does not include the domestic abuse and child abuse and rapes and … drug deals, substance abuse, addictions, fights, beatings and …

    what isn’t working?

    • opheliart permalink

      do you think cupich with his history is going to help FAMILIES?

      what isn’t working?

  13. opheliart permalink

    http://www.religionnews.com/2015/08/09/protesters-take-to-ferguson-streets-to-mark-anniversary-of-michael-brown-killing/#comments

    the roasted head of a pig?

    hmm … wonder how many peta activists shared in the rally

    • opheliart permalink

      okay … let’s understand this …

      brown steals cigars … bullies store clerk he stole from … has an encounter with police … he punches officer and tries to steal firearm … gets shot (still not clear on the attempted arrest in this) … dies … residents and nonresidents torch town … steal and bully some more … one year later … now carve up a pig and stick its head on a spike in from of the officers while lamenting a kid who was in desperate need of HELP … yes, the 18-yr old was not acting in the best interest of himself and his neighbors … which might lead to murder of neighbors (based on shoving-bullying-punching in face behavior) … stealing is one crime—physical violence another …

      and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA should be what?

      • opheliart permalink

        not buying it … the guardian of brown spurred violence during all of this which tells us where he is in his thinking

        this ferguson incident will go down in history as what? when people finally move out of this abusive mindset … and look back at this … they will shake their heads and say, my gosh, what were we thinking

        which is saying what? we have hope that man of all shades of skin tone will grow up and out of these indecencies

        the big Q: who will lead mankind out of this system of belief … I mean, TRULY LEAD!

  14. opheliart permalink

    had to post this for the catholics reading SPIR:

    this is a comment from none other than “the false prophet” greg1 … who once said to me: you need to test your spirits … and we replied: we were testing yours 😉

    Greg1 Aug 9, 2015 at 6:54 am
    Yes, in Football, you either have the talent, or you don’t. And that is all there is to it, whether Tim Tebow, or this guy. But to come out as an Atheist, tells me more about his IQ, than anything else. So we’ll have to see how he does on the field.

    – See more at: http://lauraturner.religionnews.com/2015/08/07/arian-foster-and-atheism-in-the-nfl/#sthash.JbYHZtqt.dpuf

    is greg1 a mind reader?

    • opheliart permalink

      why do we call him a false prophet?

      his rhetoric is completely one sided in scope—rome. his church-his doctrine. as if this establishment of fascism never forced itself on the world?—power-mongering and war-mongering… to get itself in a position of control—no matter what it FED THE PEOPLE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

      and he fully believes what he says based on what his church says is God. how arrogant can these men be? and to parade an institution by way of a “pope” (hmm … did we read about a pope in scripture? an infallible dogmatic? remember, pope fran said his position as pope IS AN INSTITUTION which is TELLING THE WORLD HE IS INFALLIBLE … whoa!) well, maybe for him—his gods … but his institution does not speak FOR God.

      He cannot speak for Spirit in his idol worship. so, he might need to ask the ORTHODOX about SPIRITUAL WARFARE—orthodox? —-yes?

      • opheliart permalink

        oh wait … the orthodox think they speak for … 🙂

  15. opheliart permalink

    http://www.religionnews.com/2015/08/09/pope-francis-anniversary-bomb-lasting-warning-humanity/

    hmm … seems it does have a problem with the US … but let’s look at it this way:

    one could ask:

    what might have happened if THE CHRIST were permitted to BECOME within the mind of man? what if the roman catholic church, understood as rome, had not declared ITSELF the church, and devised its regime to overpower the world through OBEDIENCE TO ITS HIERARCHAL OFFICES—through use of torture and death? injecting into societies a mindset of obedience to manmade doctrines … theologies that use FORCE AND PREDESTINATION to overpower-undermine and destroy opposing factions? what if …

    I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE … instead of rome’s ideology had been able to grow … ?

    • opheliart permalink

      if we were to publish this in essay format it would show up on the RNS comment board until it was shut down by being listed as “low comment”

      ASK YOURSELVES WHAT IS BEHIND THIS? if this is what they believe …

      they will receive what they believe

      • opheliart permalink

        they are fast becoming a … (and we do not like saying this for it is not our choice) … word on the street is RNS is a farce 😦

  16. opheliart permalink

    people are fickle … they love the latest trends but when money and politics make a shift the herd runs with it … something looking cool and hip one day becomes the joke the next day … or even possibly a sad affair

    • opheliart permalink

      so, what pays for this can just as easily shut it down …

      • opheliart permalink

        and if you are in tune with the topic of this initial post … you get this drift

        you see, what becomes extra weight will get dumped when the ship is in disrepair … and is sinking

  17. opheliart permalink

    http://news.yahoo.com/trumps-plan-islamic-state-put-ring-around-122410738.html

    do you see what we have been saying? where have we seen this mindset before—in action?
    look at history … do not be shy on this for it is your time to speak

    the arrogance is astounding … dancing naked in the street, singing his war praises …

    “america the power-mongering nation—oh wow! all those he-men! 😀 bad asses! take their oil!” knock the hell out of them?
    watch who/what jumps aboard this rhetoric … and how this plays into the iran deal

    also, pay attention to the sideshow—rome

    • opheliart permalink

      the oil is not ours to take … actually, what is of the EARTH is of the Earth … but … you know how man loves his properties

      • opheliart permalink

        as we said before … those people desiring to leave if under threat of ISIL and … GET THEM OUT

        it is time we move from being a tormenter and abuser as a nation and begin to show ourselves as BELIEVERS IN CHRIST LOVE … which IS not a power-mongering-war-mongering thieving place of restitution

        we should be receivers of life

    • opheliart permalink

      if trump wanted to make a difference he would take his money and start a women’s health organization …

      seriously

      planned parenthood will gradually lose funding and there will be a need for something that satisfies the somewhat conservative (is that the word?) voters …

      • opheliart permalink

        how amazing it would be to see women and young women truly in need receive the care — women caught in a system that use and abuse … them

        know of any institutions/organizations —religions—doing this?

  18. opheliart permalink

    http://news.yahoo.com/prosecutors-mom-tossed-baby-said-boy-possessed-164012912.html

    atheists may have a field day with this but we hope they have enough sense to keep quiet as they know nothing about what this mom was experiencing

    the child, of course … not possessed … the mom was experiencing warfare …

    it’s going to get worse, people … these incidents … and it does no good for man to ignore a reality of trauma

  19. opheliart permalink

    http://www.religionnews.com/2015/08/10/jewish-extremist-poses-threat-holy-land-christians-church-body-says/

    huh … how times have changed … or have they? but we did see this coming … the catholics accusing those of judaism

    hmm … this is coming from an unusual place of candor …

    again, if a group/sect is not wanted in an area (fear? concerns of practices indecent or dangerous to a way of life …) then the sect should move to a place where the women and children are safe, and these should receive help from those of this same belief system (as we said before) … and let the governing system deal with the ‘extremists’ however they deal with them according to their religious-political laws and customs…

    Christ is quite clear on this:

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words: going forth out of that house or city shake off the dust from your feet.

    when I was rejected from the orthodox and catholic churches, I did not stay … or insist the people accept me, or demand retribution … i was at first confused and quite hurt then angry, and I was brought to speak quite firmly on this … and will continue to let it be known that the Voice of the One … is not an arbitrary place of insulated thought, where beliefs and practices, along with vocational titles designed through manmade dogma ……….

    you get the picture

    • opheliart permalink

      but again … there’s that property thing——–you know…

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