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The Incredible Shrinking … man (part 2)

May 23, 2015

The amazing thing about nursery rhymes are the secrets. I have a linen edition of Mother Goose’s Melodies. There are stains on the pages, and foxing … along with pencil scribbles throughout, but the book is still intact, minus one page where a wee one took a pair of scissors and cut out a series of tunes. I had to look up the date on this book because the melodies, along with the illustrations, begin directly on the reverse side of the cover. There is no copyright page. McLoughlin Brothers NY is on the front, handwritten at the bottom and acts as part of the art of Mother Goose with her goslings. Based on what I am seeing on ebay, it looks like the edition could be from 1887, or slightly newer.

One of the rhymes …

Lady-bug, Lady-bug,

Fly away home;

Your house is on fire,

Your children will burn.

 

History:

http://ladybugladybug.weebly.com/origins-of-rhyme.html

http://www.rhymes.org.uk/ladybug_ladybug.htm

*and this is worth a read: http://eclipse.rutgers.edu/goose/about/iconography.aspx

 

I never sang the Lady-bug rhyme to my children, but I do remember singing it as a child. It was in my books I had as a kid. Of course I had no idea what this was about, and I don’t think my parents did either. It just was. What is interesting about these rhymes is the reflection. The rhyme reflects the experience of its day. People were dealing with something stigmatizing in Lady-bug, and this says much on the type of expression used to deal with this. Artists of all forms spoke out on the unpleasantries in Society … the unjust and rigid laws … and nursery rhymes (of all things!) was a way to communicate these experiences.

This may come as a surprise to many, but the Word, understood as Holy Scripture, Sacred Scripture, the Writings, the Bible … is of a similar release. It is a reflection of life, but also shows itself as Prophet. Much of it reads strange today, and many parents and teachers avoid the ‘rough’ parts when sharing it. What believers and nonbelievers may not realize … the words were never intended for an historical documentation. It was and is intended for outpouring, and teaching. The Teachings, although containing factual pieces, like the punishment of stoning and religious sects … type of dress and food grown and harvested, are of a language not fully understood by man. It isthe Spiritual Symbology has not yet been realized in the “heavenly” sense. Intellectually, man has been all over the place in his study and views of the Writings, but Sensually, he has not yet come into its portent. We see evidence of this where Paul writes:

I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

 

11Concerning him we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. 12For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is an infant.…

 

Van Gogh Bedroom at Arles

 

So, where—when does man come into solid food on the understanding of the Writings? *Notice we wrote where—when and not just when. When is not a foundation of the Word. Where is it, or, in gnosis … It is. It is or it isn’t. You are it or not it. You are within this or you are not is a better way to understand what we are saying on the foundation of Church (on/upon [this] rock I will build my church), and why we have often used [this] in the essays. This is the portent. It is … a moving, flowing, continuous adjunct of understanding. If you get this—enter this—you get a little more then a little more and you keep moving within [this] stream and … (take note of the prophet’s share Matt. 10.41). We realize this is gnostic thought, but it must be realized for the purpose of moving into solid food. Celebrating religious tradition born from man’s understanding is fine, and can have truly wonderful results, and often advocates in various ways the Essence of the Spirituality of Christ. Where man gets into a pool of stagnating parenting is where (a place) he refuses movement; instead, desiring that his theology, views, and practice(s) determine the law on God. God cannot be contained in these. Spirit cannot be sequestered and rationed out to the haves and the have nots. Man is not the forager in this. God’s Angels are the Elect and are not stagnating in shallow pools of offense ….. getting back to that societal quell.

 

Van Gogh Night Cafe Arles

 

In the Wisdom of Sirach is said:

Partake of instruction with a great amount of silver and gain much gold with it.

The color of “money” in Spiritual Healing is not a permanent System. An infallible doctrine is a type of death, or hell, because it resonates or resounds within its own girth. It feeds on itself and becomes full of itself … where continued growth for understanding on God/the Word … uniting in Spirit … is a constant foraging (why I liked the very beginning of the recent movie Noah—symbolically it spoke on a life of meager attribute for the richer partnering). In our life—the life of the gnostic—infallible doctrine has no choice, no voice, no breath. It smells of dust. It reads darkness. In truth, it is deception. Look at the falling … the failure … in the areas of Religion. Some are robust, but in what sectors and for what purpose? If abusing the Writings by claiming full knowledge and understanding and expecting that those “beneath” you obey what you cannot grasp due to your own widespread insolence … is not loving neighbor. If using the patriotic fist in the face of those unlike you, or national pride, ethnic pride, religious pride, or any pride other than the gentler pride of a child’s first steps into fuller development  … to wound and regulate the Systems according to your mainstay to bastardize and ostracize others is not gaining silver—more to the tune of burying it as you bury the words of others. You see how loving neighbor as self is [this]—It is this? This is “us” … this is where God is not partial.

Why is man still meandering, often painstakingly, in the old ways? One cannot pour new wine into old skins (wine is understood as the ESSENCE of God). Harmonious traditions aside, why the continued agape with thorns? What are these thorns? *and please note the ring of thorns around the “head”, but ask yourself the true meaning of this in the Writing.

Man clings to his settlements … his land … his property. He fancies himself king of the staff. Any true believer knows that the staff has its limitations regarding the flesh, and will only serve one in truth.

Let’s first look to John in Revelation 17.

17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

 

When I was a kid I was afraid to read this … now that I am older, I do not fear it. The Symbolism in Revelation is spectacular! It is rich with imagination and … Spiritual Truth, and this is the “God” we are talking about … not man’s systems, claiming saint, prophet, infallible doctrine, Christ’s kingdom,  Church … If you are a “gold digger” like I am, you live to see it shine. We can go through this and share every Symbolic part, but we don’t … as we never do in SPIR. SPIR is for glimpses, a little that others might share a lot. The line in bold is what we are referring to. The ten horns are the ten trumpets symbolizing the ten houses. The ten houses? you wonder. The Ten Commandments, where else … and these are not Systems of Belief. These are areas of Spiritual Awareness. Take the first: “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.

I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes comes to the Father except through Me.

What is Me? What is God. God is. It is. He-She-It is—the One.

But what does this mean? What is this … God? *The nonbelievers are going to ‘get this’ … trust me on this 🙂

Let’s look at Paul’s words in 2 Corinthians 7. 12 for a moment.

And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

Angel(kind) Paul speaks of a thorn, also understood as a “sound” … much like what we are talking about where the Prophet John writes of the ten horns. Spiritually speaking, sound is understood as voice—a voice on something (ten houses—ten voices). Paul says … “through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh.” He is speaking of his manhood here—his fleshly existence— which correlates or resonates through the sound man makes in his exaltations, diatribe, doctrine and … … In Paul’s case, the messenger of Satan is that which argues against his Namesake. His Namesake being Christ—I am … and the messenger [are] the  power struggles that conflict with where Paul ministers on the Word. The “house” in this would be one of the Ten Commandments. Can you identity the one? Of course it is number One. Man and God. Flesh and Spirit.

God chastises *[instructs] those He loves—His chosen … for the Work of the Spirit. Paul is of this. Each house has a voice. Each has an Angel guarding this, but along with this is a noise that refutes its Person. This is permitted so that each entering this house does not claim higher authority. There can never be any above or higher than the One (the unity of the Spirit). This gives God his impartial Person: the Godhood—the Energy and the Essence. Paul as Prophet, whether speaking to the groups gathering or to the followers of Christ, those called for opulence and feeding on solid food, never speaks over his Purpose, never overreaching … in the Day of his reckoning.

We could explain more in this but this essay would be too long. Now, a nonbeliever might say, “Why do I need a God? My conscience is clean. What would I need of Angels? This is silliness … good and evil spirits floating about, or whatever they do.” What he does not realize is that the growth of man is dependent on man’s articulation of truth … or … for the benefit of the nonbeliever—his clear (clarity) conscience—a purer substance. He does not know what he does not know, therefore, his ability to understand how clear or how “clean” his Conscience is … falls short of his Gift. He has not yet met his “maker” in this—the creator of his wealth of all things, including what he does not know. If he desires knowledge on matters of how man came into existence, he can gain this through clarity from the purity of intent. It is about desire—choices—God being a priority, and no, it does not need to be bogged down in the histrionics of Religion. God does not demand this of us.

We shared in SPIR before on the process of man moving into awareness besides himself. Survival was important and as man grew and gained more insight and desire beyond trying to survive, the imagination grew and changed, along with personality and interests. The New Testament was very important in developing the mind of man through these changes. Nonbelievers often don’t see this, especially in their quarrels over litigation. Any honest nonbeliever cannot deny the purpose of the Writings in the clauses of a developing world, and man’s developing mind. Unfortunately, systems took over and steered these one way. The art of the Prophet was nearly lost. This, its creative outpouring and resounding breath, was misdirected. {God} was mismanaged. Not entirely, but the UNDERSTANDING became synonymous with brute force and submission. This [god] was never meant to be. Fortunately, the Arts spoke a different sound and this helped build the community of believers in other ways.

And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

It cannot stand, and is why we now enter The Return. The nonbeliever asks, “What is this?” Yes, it is! It is this. Before Koine Greek, Hebrew … theirs was a Language … and a realm of something other. If the nonbeliever wishes to view this as a LOTR type realm of races then fine, or … aliens from another world (actually in Gnostic ‘Hospital’, the term alien is used)—but what we speak is/was an Angelic Realm where angels do have free will. Forget the Adam and Eve story as this was changed from the original. Choices were made. Some angels went into darkness (eons). Man evolved in and through the life from these choices (this is amazing stuff!). Now … we are at a point of this Return … where we are finding to get back to “Father”—the origins of our WORTH, and this has everything to do with Spiritual Gifts (note: the use of Father, Mother, Son in Scripture is to help in the understanding of seed of Him through She brings forth Child, and why the Return to Father is our finding—the seed of these Gifts, which IS Spirit partnering).

 

This is Prophesy. It is the Evolution of God and Man.

 

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Reading comments, we see Religionists telling the nonbelievers to read CS Lewis. CS Lewis was important for his day, but we see that the nonbeliever has moved, and much of what Lewis wrote will not resonate with most of the nonbelievers of today (we are not speaking of the militant here).

An open mind is an open mind … but if there is any type of “belief” keeping it from being truly open then the new—the discovery (the finding)—cannot enter. If there is bigotry, pride … intelligence to the tune of imbalance … like a stumbling block it will keep the virginal quest from happening.

But the nonbeliever remains … unconvinced? He says, “I still don’t get why I need a God. The idea of Spirit good or bad within people is nonsense. No such thing exists.” And we say, but what of the virus that feeds … spreads … can you see this in its activity without *[instruments]? What of the choices people make that appear crazy to you—like mass murders? Where and how do “ideas of this nature” enter people and perform? The nonbeliever says,”I can explain a lot in this and do not need any Spirit-alien whatever …” Can you stop the war? Can you see cancer before it invades the body? Can you know if a man is planning an attack that will destroy many lives? Do you know who was behind the murder of … ? Only a pure mind is permitted these, and he is not permitted to indulge for the safekeeping of Truth in a world of unbelief.

Man is mystified. They don’t belief it. Man does not want to know of this. If one has Gifts of this nature … would man be out of a job? 😀

There was  … once upon a Time … 

 

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Peace and Love

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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35 Comments
  1. opheliart permalink

    After posting this essay, we went to read comments regarding Ireland’s vote on ssm. What we see from opposing views is what they read into what Jesus said in the stories—teachings. “Jesus said—Jesus affirmed …” Neither understand the Language. It is just convenience for both. Jesus was not referring to the marriage of the flesh in the Word. Why would HE, PAUL, JOHN … speak on what they they were not engaging in? Jesus did not marry on Earth … Paul never married on Earth … John never married on Earth … THE MARRIAGE SPOKEN OF IN HOLY SCRIPTURE IS NOT THE TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE OF THE FLESH … so, neither is right nor wrong … man just muses for his own. This is of partial edict.

    Peace

    • opheliart permalink

      As we have said before———–Leave Jesus out of it! He was of His Father’s Work. How man chooses to get by in the flesh should really be an agreement of fairness and just means.

      • opheliart permalink

        If man was truly desiring of God’s command on LOVE, he would marry the woman abused and left with several children having to fend for herself … or adopt one or two children in need … or marry the lonely … the oppressed … the victimized … the downtrodden … IF … and only IF, he is is of the HEARTMIND to ferry this to a safer more cultivating place of renewal—understood as HEALING.

  2. opheliart permalink

    I know a Catholic—one I communed with—and he heard on purgatory that it is a lazy man’s purgatory. I found this interesting … lazy man’s purgatory … I spent time discerning on this.

    We shared in SPIR that Purgatory is not of God—Truth. We shared in how and why this is. I know of priests who do what they want, even lying, deceiving … and selfishly acting to serve self or system of belief (their doctrine which they have been taught is either absolute authority on God or infallible in that it was somehow “written” by men inspired by the “holy” Spirit). Have they ever looked at the tenets of these men? The life of their supposed dogma and seen its errancy? Or do they believe because they cannot bring themselves to confess the Institution is full of false prophesy and has deceived the people? We have caught them in dishonesty, cowardice, poor pastoring, selfishness and lack of compassion … as they serve the infallible Doctrine of their Faith. They have yet to admit they behaved badly. They hide their acts behind their vocational titles and the system that provides them safe cover … and fool’s gold.
    But why bring up purgatory here? We bring it up because these men believe that in purgatory all their bad behavior, poor ethics, dishonesty, selfish endeavors … and poor pastoring and the cowardice associated with this … will be dealt with. This a lazy man’s purgatory. Do you see how it works for the indoctrinated—the ESTABLISHMENT? They break laws, sometimes even their own—which is contradictory—and they deny their own saving. How sad is this? I am not making up these stories—I have personally experienced/witnessed dishonesty and very poor pastoring from priests! This is a type of “test” for those claiming themselves APOSTLES … testing, maybe even INSTRUCTING … on their WORTH, or worthiness for the Discipleship of the chosen (and these are few). Who can say where God/Spirit tests and how he uses people as INSTRUMENTS for His ‘worth’ … Work? If you lie here … how can you be of service there.

    See Elijah. Lord said to Elijah:

    9Then he came there to a cave and lodged there; and behold, the word of the LORD came to him, and He said to him, “What are you doing here, Elijah?” 10He said, “I have been very zealous for the LORD, the God of hosts; for the sons of Israel have forsaken Your covenant, torn down Your altars and killed Your prophets with the sword. And I alone am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.”…

    And the LORD said to him, “Go, return on your way to the WILDERNESS of Damascus. And when you arrive …

    But where is the Catholic who told me what he heard? Hiding? 😉 Denying what he heard? Dishonest also?

    • opheliart permalink

      gotta admit, folks, purgatory is a COP-OUT … look at the corruption! If man is of the mind to do evil, lie, and lacks compassion … he does not RESPECT God, at least not the God I Love … the God of His Word … so, what has this Religious Theory done to the people in positions of power?

      • opheliart permalink

        if man breaks his agreements, is dishonest—wounds—for his own selfish gains … then is dishonest to cover for these … hiding behind his FALSE MARRIAGES … 😦 … is his purgatory going to save him? what of his remaining years on earth? continued lies—hiding?

        He gets caught is what happens. the world will know of what he did … as often is is the case where these catch up with him … what he believes may be what he receives … but if he had been honest from the start, fair in his agreements, true to the Word … and if he faltered and stepped badly, admitted this and apologized and made the right choice to give himself to those he wronged by doing what is right and fair and just … with COMPASSION AND DECENCY … well, he just might be a disciple worth saving 🙂

        otherwise … Lord says, I never knew you … for how can He use dishonesty in His Kingdom? How can He use betrayal, false marriages, deception, willful ignorance …

  3. opheliart permalink

    Check this out …

    as of Sat 5/23 at 1.25 PM NE time there are 89 comments on this:
    http://www.religionnews.com/2015/05/21/duggars-reeling-from-joshs-sex-abuse-scandal/

    same time there are 2 comments on this:
    http://www.religionnews.com/2015/05/22/australians-push-vatican-cardinal-testify-abuse/

    wow, the placing was what? but why would the commenters be more interested in commenting on a 14-yr-old’s *fondling of young girls and not more outraged over centuries of sexual abuse of children—billions of children—and TODAY these are still covered up—hidden—excused, and the RCC refuses to come COME FORTH WITH THE TRUTH ON THESE. Don’t you find this odd? Scary, even? Yes, it is of much concern to learn of a youngster doing what Josh did, and it must be a difficult thing to have your reputation destroyed by people who know nothing about your upbringing and how you were not able to fully control the consequences of this because others took control and kept things quiet while presenting themselves in the public as do-gooders and the like … but look at what is being presented in the Roman Catholic Church and other Establishments … on a much much larger scale and how these very serious CRIMES are being ignored … EXCUSED by much of the world, and much of the supporters of this Regime. This is alarming … truly.

    Why so much commentary on the Josh incident but so little on the Pell incidentS? Is man more interested in making his points rather than stopping the sexual abuse and those covering for it? WHO IS STILL COVERING FOR THE VERY DEVASTATING SEXUAL ABUSE? Where and how is this still being IGNORED?

    *from the article: The InTouch story, which included pictures of the police documents it was based on, reported that Josh Duggar was investigated for multiple sex offenses, including forcible fondling of breasts and genitals, against five underage girls. Some of the alleged offenses investigated were felonies.

  4. opheliart permalink

    http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-official-islamic-state-militants-palmyras-museum-093436329.html

    they feel proud that all the artifacts were removed and brought to safe places …
    we wonder if they can say the same for the people …?

  5. opheliart permalink

    http://www.religionnews.com/2015/05/19/5-ways-churches-inflicted-pain-commentary/

    the comments are interesting — do a read before RNS shuts it off.

    A-Max and Tom L. … 😀 … yes, T called out the bigotry fair and square!

  6. opheliart permalink

    The RCC is on a roll … a saint here and a saint there … but why … have you asked yourselves why the VAtican is promoting this? Look closely at the details —- put the places together and what do you see? What does the VAtican desire?

    • opheliart permalink

      —-all the excitement over the ssm in Ireland and what will happen next? Can you see it? Can you see what is on the horizon? The Vatican does not go down without a fight, folks …

      • opheliart permalink

        http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-romero-killed-hatred-faith-110322429.html

        Pope Francis urged pilgrims filling St. Peter’s Square on Pentecost Sunday to take “the heroic examples” of a slain El Salvadoran bishop and an Italian nun who worked in Kenya who were beatified this weekend.

        You see, the Vatican wants to raise the fear level, and along with this the Catholic mindset to indulge in warring to “protect” what? Their Faith—their milk-fed understanding of God. We were expecting this—we have been watching the folly. A group like ISIL lives for this. RARRRR! Let’s get it on! they scream. But what the pope does not yet see, in his fake dowry is that he is not Prophet, and he cannot lead the people to safety. He wants them like his heros, caught up in incendiary affairs … which are so old, stale … ignorant and [he]does not see that the educated and those in better financial positions don’t care all that much about the Romeros and Irenes …and even less about the Serras as they would rather NOT be reminded of what this clan did to the Native Peoples … bad-bad-bad … in today’s age … people look upon these acts as CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY … now, this brings us to this very thing—what this Establishment does not realize—IF THEY DESIRE THIS CANONIZATION OF PEOPLE LIKE SERRA THEN THEY WILL ALSO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE CRIMES THAT HE AND HIS HENCHMEN COMMITTED AGAINST THESE PEOPLE … and what of those having murdered Romero and the nun? You see, the Vatican loves to start fires in the homes of people all over the world … and these are not HEALING igniting as he leads them or tries to lead them to actions contrary to WHAT JESUS CALLS US TO FOLLOW … You see? Ignorance—War-mongering—lies-deception–force and submission to something old and decayed—THE CATHOLIC MINDSET with the Roman twist 😦

  7. opheliart permalink

    God does not call us to darkness, folks … he calls us to LIGHT.

  8. opheliart permalink

    http://marksilk.religionnews.com/2015/05/23/irish-catholicism-supports-same-sex-marriage/

    the Irish now need to ask themselves WHAT caused them to go along with the horrors that occurred under their “Faith” … BELIEF SYSTEM … and could they still be under a spell of … in thinking they need all that histrionics to save or be saved … if this is of any consequence to them (just going by their Doctrinal teachings—where and what do they accept and where and what do they ignore 🙂 … who gets to decide?

    If the atrocities that occurred in Ireland through the RCC weren’t so horrific, we might be amused by this “big” decision on ssm … and how the Catholics still ‘need’ their priests, bishops yada-yada … but who set the stage in first place and why?

  9. opheliart permalink

    The Apostles went out in twos and did not go with an army to overwhelm and destroy people, or even to build themselves into a political force to control and use the people as slaves—in no way! What they did was share TEACHING … in the hope of lifting the heart that abusive thought-acts might be removed … things like lapidation, indoctrination to laws that were unjust … IT’s all there in the Writings … IF ONE UNDERSTANDS THE LANGUAGE. The RCC and those like it never understood the Language. They are of a mindset to overpower and … deceive through strategy which unfortunately pope fran has agreed to. He should NEVER have entered the political arena, instead, he should have focused on the bigotry and horrors of his own—within his own massive organization.

    • opheliart permalink

      but what is unnerving … there are actually Catholics who feel we should “bow” to their pope! If we speak of God, they assume we should respect and represent the Catholic Faith. I have had Catholics actually tell me I am doing Satan’s work, or I am a #$*& for arguing against the RCC Doctrine as we find this dangerous to the health and wellbeing of the people when forced and used in the politics of the world … IT IS DELUSIONAL FOR THESE TO THINK BECAUSE I AM A BELIEVER IN SPIRIT THAT I SHOULD BOW TO THEIR HOLY FATHERS—THESE MEN ARE NOT, AND WE REPEAT—ARE NOT—OUR GOD! That they would even think that all adhere to Catholic mindset is a racist, bigoted … IGNORANT … mind.

      • opheliart permalink

        They can have their race, but they need to understand that WE see them as having fed on milk so long … it has gone sour in their bloated bellies … but please, don’t get us going on the ECTOPIC PREGNANCIES … and what happened with these women and so many others left to die in AGONIZING pain in beds … those demented Catholic beds where men and women supposedly trained as doctors and nurses allowed their DOCTRINE OF THEIR FAITH to MURDER …

        as for the CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE IN THEIR ORDERS … baby, these are in the beginning stages …

        YOU CATHOLICS CAN KEEP YOUR INSIDIOUS DOCTRINE … we will not go there.

        MANAGUA, Nicaragua — Two weeks after Olga Reyes danced at her wedding, her bloated and disfigured body was laid to rest in an open coffin — the victim, her husband and some experts say, of Nicaragua’s new no-exceptions ban on abortion.
        Reyes, a 22-year-old law student, suffered an ectopic pregnancy. The fetus develops outside the uterus, cannot survive and causes bleeding that endangers the mother. But doctors seemed afraid to treat her because of the anti-abortion law, said husband Agustin Perez. By the time they took action, it was too late.
        Nicaragua last year became one of 35 countries that ban all abortions, even to save the life of the mother, according to the Center for Reproductive Rights in New York. The ban has been strictly followed, leaving the country torn between a strong tradition of women’s rights and a growing religious conservatism. Abortion rights groups have stormed Congress in recent weeks demanding change, but President Daniel Ortega, a former leftist revolutionary and a Roman Catholic, has refused to oppose the church-supported ban.

        http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21601045/ns/health/t/women-die-after-nicaraguas-ban-abortions/#.VWHBMCg1uap

        LIKE WE SAID: CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY

  10. opheliart permalink

    http://news.yahoo.com/church-reels-irelands-huge-yes-gay-marriage-005218265.html

    Traditional/ssm marriage aside … ask yourselves WHY the RCC is INFERIOR to Human Growth, particularly Spiritual Growth? People use the word spiritual as if they understand what it means , and sure, people have the right to choose their language and express themselves—their beliefs—in a way that feels right to them, but the word SPIRITUAL is often misrepresented, and carries far more “person” than people realize. Traditionally, the Religionists, like Roman Catholics, born into and bowing to certain credential-affiliated dogma, look to the INSTITUTION for understanding of Spirit. We do not. We do not throw out all that has come forth from Institution, but we are aware on the diabolical “instep”—AWARENESS of what contradicts TRUTH AND THE DIVINE (not evil in Word but of visionary insight on what is constituting in areas ungracious and historically insolent)—and far more engaging SPIRITUALLY than Institution (esp through what we see and experience as misguided men) … we are not bound by its doctrinal carriage and entitled positions of aggrandizement.

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    How much longer will you of the old adage insist your children bow to a man in fancy frocks … or insist that a child MUST be baptized through these credentials … and on and on … yep, we get that you USE the priests for your traditions, but WHERE in all of these is there Spiritual wellbeing? Are you aware that HEALING comes not by belief alone?

    I guess what we are asking is what makes you authority on God?

    And you say, “But we never said we were the authority on God!”

    Your Institution has announced itself for centuries … I mean, come on, look what it did to those not bowing to its head. The gnostics were tortured and murdered … anyone not in compliance with your doctrine was denied voice for a very long time, even in the USA … don’t be naive. Had we tried to share what we now share even five years ago we would be dismissed as heretical … actually, maybe still! “We are not stopping you,” you say. Oh, but you are, and so is your big head—that pope figure you parade throughout the world—still telling people what to do … but now, he plays at a peace initiative, and you drink it up without seeing the strategy behind it all … all that sainting hype, and Brotherhood Partnering. How any women of sense could allow these patriarchal bullheads to stick their _____into the female person and tell them what is needs a good talking to! If your Institution were truly interested in peace AND THE POVERTY STRICKEN … they would SELL ALL THEY HAVE, and give it to those in need … but no, they want everyone else to do this while they sit in their finery and drink their wine … hmmm …

    We want to move the people forward in understanding God, but the Catholic mindset remains fogged in with its precepts … don’t you see? If you desire this belief system … get out of the public arena and give a little space for others to BREATHE! and please, for God’s Sake, tell your Roman Catholic politicians to not use their Catholic Beliefs to insulate and deny … THESE ARE YOUR MEMBERS! Do something!

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    Read this comment :

    Atheist Max May 25, 2015 at 12:15 pm
    @Nanabedokw Moslem,

    “I have “faith” that the sun will rise tomorrow, a trifle north of east … and that’s not superstition and gullibility.”

    NO.
    You have no such “faith” in the sun.

    What you have is knowledge and confidence based on past performance and knowledge based on expectations.
    That is not faith.

    Faith is something for which there is no knowledge and no past performance. It is a claim that something is true DESPITE the lack of evidence and evidence to the contrary.

    Faith is the claim that an invisible bridge exists out of your 9th floor window – the claim that all you need to do is step out your window and it will be there to save you. Ridiculous nonsense.

    Faith is superstition and gullibility.
    Confidence in past performance is evidence-based knowledge and expectations.

    Your claim about the sun is not faith.

    **************************************************

    Is A-Max in the mind of N? Does he think faith does not exist—ever? Has he never had faith that his parents would feed him? He is what we call delusional. He feasts on his own self-rightness. HE is OBSESSED with being “right” and in the process he shows himself to be of darkness … but what is interesting is that not one atheist poster will correct him on this—not one. Are they so desperate in being right too that they cannot chastise one of their own? This leads people to think that maybe all if not most atheists may be quite delusional 😉

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      if that is the case … they will be a dying breed …

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        A-Max is in for a fall … this may be what it takes to stop his dangerous foray.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/boko-haram-hacks-10-death-ne-nigeria-local-134552745.html

    A-Max … where is your politics to save people … or will you blame JESUS for this horror?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy_III

    Alison King (MA journalist) was asking Joe about the Kennedy mystique and Joe answered “safely” … enough already, right? Enough on the Kennedy worship … the youth of this day did not grow up with the “Kennedy Compound” in Society. This means nothing to them. Alison needs to redirect her interests to suit a wider audience. I like you, Alison … please don’t dip into the same old same old. As for Joe … I like him, and if he should one day run for President, sadly, I can’t in good Conscience vote for him. He is a Roman Catholic and I just do not see how he can pay into and support a System of Belief that is so … rooted in the Dogmatic, and stagnant, and so awful to women! I can’t trust the conflict of interests, and for someone like Joe, smart as he is … and “real” as he comes off … this is going to be a problem in much of what he tries to do. Many of these men and women need to start thinking about WHAT they really stand for. You can’t play politics with a monkey on your back 😉

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        They are still responsible for those having been RAPED, SEXUALLY MOLESTED … STILL BEING RAPED AND SEXUALLY MOLESTED … AND WOMEN HAVE DIED AND ARE STILL DYING IN HOSPITAL BEDS …
        and any POLITICAL MALICE HAVING CAUSED ____________ ! Agreeing to ssm, behaving as if you are now l-i-b-e-r-a-l, or liberated … means what exactly? That all those horrors go away because you voted yes? Do you think your clergy are now safe—your bishops good and decent men? They might just be going along with this to save their skin … but what we see is a really unnerved Vatican with their game plan in place … and the bus stops for no priest or …

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    Nightly News … why would anyone care that the Roman Pontiff hasn’t watched TV in 25 years? Is this news? With all that is going on in the world you think this is NEWS??? Can you show the news about the CLERGY SEX ABUSE OR WOMEN STILL DYING IN HOSPITAL BEDS BECAUSE OF ECTOPIC PREGNANCIES AND COMPLICATED BIRTHS BECAUSE OF ROMAN CATHOLIC PATRIARCHAL MAN as god DOCTRINE? NOOOOOOO … you show us the pope not having watched TV in 25 years! We were sitting there and we said, ah, no surprise on that —like, so what …. 😀

    Would this have something to do with the YES vote in Ireland? yah …

    • opheliart permalink

      We don’t think they were trying to make him look “holy” on that one … maybe quite a bit out of touch on … THE NEWS 😉

      That’s right, fran … you are out of touch with the REALITY OF LIFE.

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        but know one thing dear man, we are routing for you in a way most surprising—a way you have not yet seen 🙂

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    Greg1 May 26, 2015 at 6:14 am
    Karen, I didn’t duck out on you, but went on a long weekend vacation. But Karen, if you are going to make these types of remarks against God Almighty, then you are going to lose my respect. If I told you that your father was a hateful monster, then I would equally lose your respect, and rightfully so. Again, there is an approved apparition of God the Father appearing to an Italian nun in 1932. You should read that before continuing your diatribe. It is a pdf document. The actual words of the Father begin on page 11 (see table of contents). If you read it, you might know the Father that I know a little better, and realize that you are calling our Loving God a monster:
    http://www.fatherspeaks.net/pdf/the_father_speaks_english_v-2005-02.pdf

    uh, sorry, folks, this may be APPROVED by Catholics in their Systems but this is NOT God the Father speaks … absolutely not. This guy keeps pushing the rosary … without understanding.

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    Garson Abuita May 29, 2015 at 2:06 pm
    John Hall- why? Doesn’t Jesus Christ mean Jesus the Messiah? Why insert the English “the” into a Greek form?

    good question … Garson is of Judaism … can you as a believer in The Christ answer this for him 🙂

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