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Feasting on the Kingdom (Part 2)

May 18, 2015

And I wrote this same unto you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow from them of whom I ought to rejoice; having confidence in you all, that my joy is the joy of you all.

 

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4 For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote unto you with many tears; not that ye should be grieved, but that ye might know the love which I have more abundantly unto you.

5 But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all.

6 Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many.

7 So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.

8 Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.

9 For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things.

10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ;

 

The forgiveness spoken here is not a remedial process, and vocational priests hearing confessions are not Paul … and the vocations of man are most definitely not Christ. Where did man get the idea that he, a man, raised on Theology, understood as strict adherence to Doctrine, would be able to absolve sins, or … where in this is he of the power to bless marriages in Christ’s Name as anything more than religiously contractual? Jesus never established this in his FATHER’s  ministry (doing the Will of his Father). He never spoke on these practices. He was never of the articles of man. He ministered on coming out of a mind seated in what? Antiquity? Insolence, the mind of arrogance and leisure (wasteful and selfish antidote). To think that God announced a certain group of men, claiming themselves “the apostles” …  the “host of the Person of Christ” … to mastermind a cult that is dependent on its Doctrine for wishful thinking to receive heaven or God’s Kingdom is claiming itself God. Wow. This is an insidious, calculation of what? First of all, Spirit does not operate in this manner. Spirit is not to be manipulated and contained in any cultish practice, and is never held hostage through academia, licenses, titles, absolutions, annulments, chrismation, baptisms … Man does not hold the keys. We realize many have lived this life and have known nothing else, and cannot imagine his “church” not being the True Church Jesus spoke of when he said, “on this rock I will build my church” … but the time has come for man to know the truth about his System, which became a very large Industry. Hiding behind something called the Doctrine of the Faith as infallible is near riotous. Knowing Spirit in its powerful Namesake makes these men contentious, if not odious. Ah, but man loves man, and his creations, and all those glamorous titles … and the masses, when not oppressed and suffering under this leadership, and not indulging for power … bow to this out of fear and complacency. The stories we could tell … and will.

 

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The person of Christ is not a man. It is not a System. The Person of Christ is Spirit—the Angels of this. No man has seen God (John 1.8, 1 John 4.12). Why would God choose doctrinally ordained men of a set Institution, having bullied its way to the top of the charts, to be God’s Angels? Controlling God’s Gifts and … ? This is actually a frightening display of ignorance, born from a System setting itself up as a god: the infallible doctrine. Do you even know what you are seeing in this? If you knew the Spirit Realm you would understand that these Systems are not what Paul was saying when he speaks on forgiveness.

Did Jesus tell us the role of the chosen? Was this to be the Roman Catholic Church … or any other power-monguering Institution? A simple no on that. Not the pope of any Institution, not the Institution itself, no matter how large and politically endearing …  has the power of Truth through consolation of his sect, nor does it have control over God’s Angels … or the Kingdom of God. I smile thinking about man believing his Doctrine, his Institution, his practices and Traditions, and one adhering to country club rules as being the Elect. It’s like watching children play emperor of his make-believe kingdom. It really is Spiritually immature practice. But the honest truth in this is that people were more or less forced into this life … an emperor governing his kingdom. Oh, but the ills of these men, and what they did to the people … even when they saw nothing beyond their own veils …

This is where we get into the forgiveness spoken of in Corinthians. The time has come for the Reality of the Spirit to expel the sleuth sayers—the remedialists and their contrived sentencing. We look forward to the burst of the nonbelievers onto the scene … as we have seen their carriage, and no, Christendom in the form of something like the RCC never saw the nonbeliever as a threat—not really. They held court with these in their treaties and formed partnerships for land possession and control of the people. We are not dumb on these confiscations, but still … those angry at the oppression and the hypocrisies … will light up like a volcano in its time of execution … and it won’t be the “nonbeliever” the Religionists of Dogma fear, but the Gnostic.

 

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The Person of Christ is the Holy Advocate Jesus spoke of.

But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

 

Religion has been quite the Industry. Look at its product … and look at the numbers growing that see it as inconsequential. These need the pastor for … what? Weddings, funerals … the occasional marital concern … maybe. Who/what may be concerned that it is losing its biggest audience in the lives of the people? Do you even need a priest to know that you are going to be in community with another in the Tradition of Marriage? Do you need a pastor to speak at your sister’s funeral, especially when he may not have heard of her until you called to inform him of her passing? Your sister’s friends, you … your family, have more to say in this than any vocationally ordained minister. Of course, it is your choice in this … or, your sister’s choice—possibly, and … there may be a need for a place for people to gather—to discuss ethics, struggles … home life … relationships and …

Yes, Religion provides structure but should never exceed Love. 

 

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We understand that the nonbeliever doesn’t experience God in the way the Religious do or … one saying he is a believer not of Religion. We understand why he does not believe. It’s a little complex, and it has to do with seasons, too. Seasons are usually varied—right? Seasons come year after year, but there is a Season of Truth that comes for each partnering. If the Religionist insists on his Doctrine—his keepers of the law—and refuses those a voice in the course of the time of man then what comes forth is a Season of Reprisal. We have several times said that what you believe may be what you receive, and so it is with man’s truths.

Again, do remember what Paul says:

10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ;

 

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We shared in Part 1 the following:

Be eager for the word. The first aspect of the word is faith, the second is love, the third is works, and from this comes life. The Apostle James

What we hear in this passage is “I am” … way … truth and, life … leading to what? What is God. But for God to be experienced we must come into truth, what is “Christ” Love. This is the Essence, a KNOWABLE part of the Godhood, or, as we prefer, Parenthood God. The Energy is experienced through the Light on the Word, not known in that it is unseen. The Energy is Father. The Essence of the Spirituality of Christ is Mother, through Son, “Jesus”, understood as Savior—an active, not stagnant, Name. Believer enters into his Spirit ID (uniting within this) and this involves a yoke that is easy while the burden is Truth (Light).

Partake of instruction with a great amount of silver, and gain much gold from it.

Please understand, we are sharing Spiritual Symbology here—a Language only partially understood through the tongue of man—his Theology. Mary, Theotokos, is Symbol in this, but the Reality of Spirit is not Mary but Sophia—our Wisdom. The Three consisting of Mother, Child and Father is the Trinitarian Life. Reverse this stream and what do you see? The seed of Him through She brings … what?

 

Why are the Religionists of the large Industries of Religion afraid of the above? Do they call this heresy? For one like me to share in the Godhood … is this heretical? Am I not permitted this Feast? Because I am not like the vocational priest having sworn oaths to …

But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.

 

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Who can know the mind of God?

For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counseller?

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Is the Person of Christ a man if it is of the Spirit?

 

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Could it be that the nonbeliever has been trying to see God through the Religionists—or what is his Religion? And has found this lacking as a viable presence? Could it be that part of this vision has been a catholic Christian Tradition that he was looking through? A lens of minimal celebration? Exegesis? Uniting?

 

“I like the Walrus best,” said Alice, “because you see he was a little sorry for the poor oysters.”

“He ate more than the Carpenter, though,” said Tweedledee. “You see he held his handkerchief in front, so that the Carpenter couldn’t count how many he took: contrariwise.”

“That was mean!” Alice said indignantly. “Then I like the Carpenter best—if he didn’t eat so many as the Walrus.”

“But he ate as many as he could get,” said Tweedledum.

This was a puzzler. After a pause, Alice began, “Well! They were both very unpleasant characters—”
— Through the Looking-Glass

 

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Peace and Love

 

 

 

 

 

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10 Comments
  1. opheliart permalink

    http://www.religionnews.com/2015/05/19/jeb-bush-sees-no-constitutional-right-to-gay-marriage/

    we have shared a few times in SPIR that the MARRIAGE spoken of in the Writings represent our LIFE CHOICES—honesty-dishonesty—the beds of men having to do with wives, meaning, choices men make that honor Love or try to demean and degrade it. The Love on this is Light on the Word—Truth. It is either a desire of one or not. One seeks this, or not. All else falls—falls into its place—when in the HEARTMIND of Love (of Spirit—of Life according to the Word). This is our Faith and will be the NEW ORDER OF THE FAITH … and we will have a place designated and set up for the SEARCH and STUDY in the Writings—this would be the Spiritually Symbolic Language.
    Our belief on the Traditional Marriage is this: It is either a DISTRACTION from seeking God, or not. It takes one away from Light, or not. It matters not whether it is labeled a heterosexual marriage or a homosexual marriage … the PURPOSE of the community or coming together is for the presence of and honesty of just and careful parenting of all things precious.

    Man must look at both heterosexual and homosexual life choices and determine how and where these are unjust or not of careful parenting … If man is honest with himself, he will find Religious Institutions in much error regardless of whether he calls himself heterosexual or homosexual. This includes politics.

    • opheliart permalink

      THE NEW ORDER OF THE FAITH was founded in my home 😉 … and is presently the place of the tactical *sea fairing folk Spiritually 🙂 … but we hope to make this a more established place of study and search.

  2. opheliart permalink

    Atheist Max May 18, 2015 at 11:47 pm
    The reason for the death of religion is simple.

    Google.

    It is impossible to believe in gods once you realize there are better answers for reality than “God did it”.

    But we know how the world was formed – how long it took and how we share evolution with all the other animals on earth. The gaps left for God to fill are shrinking.

    And The Bible disintegrates under the pressure of search engines.

    Believers are a shrinking, aging group of people.
    The same people who don’t know how to search for information.

    “God is imaginary”

    google it.
    I dare you.

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    Dear Max … you think one dimensionally and no … you do not know how the world was formed—neither you nor anyone else knows. You must one day be honest with yourself and CONFESS that you don’t know all you think you know. You pretend at Scripture to foist militant agenda in your hate-mongering … and it is hate, Max, but the question you need to ask is: what do I really know about God having spent my entire life thinking one dimensionally? in a catholic mindset taught to me by my doctrine of belief …
    You are no more sensually intelligent on matters of the formation of the world than those you demean and criticize. The day is coming where your nonbelieving “intelligence” as you view them through the MIND of man … will be looking at you like you are an ignorant s 0 b … so, Maxie’s pad called ignorance (his bed choice) … grow or mow … ?

    Peace

    • opheliart permalink

      Is not the scientist or the medical doctor acting in ignorance if he says: I can’t see it … I can’t experience it … therefore, it does not exist …?

      Hmmm … a table turned? If you go to a doctor and share with him on your condition, and he tells you … no, I cannot see your condition … cannot experience what you say, therefore you are delusional, lying or playing at something. Well?

      To have an attitude that there is no SPIRIT LIFE that people actively experience—good or not good—demonstrates ignorance. And when people begin to see and hear the “evidence” of the fact that there is LIFE he cannot see with his mind’s eye … and had not heard until he realized its presence … then things will become … and those hogging the stage will have to step down.

      We always say (often I have said this to the vocational priests) … do not underestimate the power of the Holy Spirit. When the TIME comes—it comes 😉

  3. opheliart permalink

    Atheist Max May 21, 2015 at 2:20 am
    Think about it:

    If prayers worked nobody would need God.
    If God was real, nobody would need to pray.

    Few ideas are so broadly insulting and so sneakily subversive
    to the human intellect as ‘prayer’.

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    Well, A-Max … maybe it’s time you move from your shallow position and ask What is God—What is prayer. Maybe your rosary prayer never worked because you were not talking to God … maybe your praying never worked because you were ignorant of its use, or maybe your prayers were more selfish and self-serving than you realized … maybe your prayers were “I am of the one true church” and therefore my prayers count whereas everyone else is going to eternal torment (see the doctrine of the Catholic Faith) … maybe you were insincere … not genuine in your Love … maybe your idea of love and God and prayer was all within Religion and not anywhere near where God could KNOW you … (recall: I never knew you … see HOLY Scripture, Max, I dare you 😉

    maybe … you are wrong about believers of the Holy Spirit … maybe you don’t understand prayer and what and how this is of GOD PURPOSE—where and how.

    • opheliart permalink

      you are quick to attack believers—of religion or not—and we notice you don’t do the same with the nonbeliever who is not against religion or believers …

      you show your hatred and your bigotry every time someone shares view which involves belief—you are no different from those who are anti-gay or those who think themselves “right” and others wrong in religious beliefs. this makes you not a credible witness. 0.

      • opheliart permalink

        Take number 11 of this from “cowriter”— see link on this excerpt in previous essay …

        Perhaps this would be a good time to also mention some of the differences between the Orthodox and the Church of Rome that one or both will have to compromise on for unity to occur. Here are several such differences:

        1. The Eastern Orthodox reject the Roman Catholic notion of purgatory (Ware, T. The Orthodox Church. Penguin Books, London, 1997, p.p. 255 and Aghiorgoussis, Maximos. The Dogmatic Tradition of the Orthodox Church. Copyright: © 1990-1996. http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article8038.asp 08/18/07).

        2. The Eastern Orthodox number the ten commandments as they originally were (Mastrantonis, G. The Ten Commandments. Copyright: © 1990-1996 Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America. http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7115.asp 05/14/07) and not as the Roman Catholics number them. Those of Rome combine the first two, even though that is not what those such as Clement of Alexander (2nd century) did (Clement of Alexandria. Stromata, Book VI).

        3. The Eastern Orthodox believe in baptism by immersion (Ware, p. 278). The Roman Catholics usually employ sprinkling.

        4. Most of the Eastern Orthodox (presuming no abortive devices are used), as do most others, believe in “the responsible use of contraception within marriage” (Ware, p.296 and Harakis S. The Stand of the Orthodox Church on Controversial Issues. http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7101.asp 8/20/05). The Roman Catholic position seems to be much more limited.

        5. The Eastern Orthodox reject “the dogma of the immaculate conception of the Virgin” (Clendenin D.B. ed. Eastern Orthodox Theology, 2nd ed. Baker Academic, 2003, p.67). That is a Roman Catholic dogma (Ott L. Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma. Translated into English by James Bastible. Nihil Obstat: Jeremiah J. O’Sullivan. Imprimatur + Cornelius, 7 October 1954. Reprint TAN Books, Rockford (IL), 1974, pp. 199-202).

        6. The Eastern Orthodox teach that presbyters (which they call “priests,” but we in the Church of God) tend to call “ministers” or “elders”) can be married (Damaskinos Papandreou, Orthodox Metropolitan of Switzerland. The Orthodox Churches and Priestly Celibacy. http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/misc/damaskinos_celibacy.htm viewed 02/04/08). The Roman Church requires celibacy for all presbyters, even though that was not its original position (Fortesque A. Transcribed by Marie Jutras. Eastern Monasticism. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume X. Copyright © 1911 by Robert Appleton Company. Online Edition Copyright © 2003 by K. Knight. Nihil Obstat, October 1, 1911. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York).

        7. The Eastern Orthodox, similar to the Church of God, teach that, “Christians must always be ‘People of the Book’ “ (Ware, p.199). Yet, throughout history, the Church of Rome has tended to place more emphasis on the Living Magisterium and non-biblical sources for much of its doctrines.

        8. The Eastern Orthodox do not observe Ash Wednesday. The Church of Rome admits that it added this observance in the Middle Ages (Thurston, Herbert. “Ash Wednesday.” The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 1. Nihil Obstat. March 1, 1907. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1907. 4 May 2009 ).

        9. The Orthodox do not believe in the concept of “papal infallibility.” That concept became a dogma for the Church of Rome in the 19th century (at Vatican I) (McBrien, Richard P. Lives of the Popes: The Pontiffs from St. Peter to Benedict XVI. Harper, San Francisco, 2005 updated ed., pp. 20-22).

        10. Many (though not all) of the Eastern Orthodox, like the Church of God, believe that God has a plan of salvation that can occur at the time of the final judgment. (Ware, p.255). The Roman Church rejects the idea that salvation can be available after the first death and this has been clearly stated by Pope Benedict (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1021. Imprimi Potest + Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger. Doubleday, New York, 1994, p. 153).

        11. The Roman Catholic view of eternal torment is rejected by the The Eastern Orthodox (Ware, p. 262).

        12. Neither the Orthodox nor Protestants believe that the jurisdiction of Rome has any real bearing on apostolic succession.

        It perhaps should be pointed out that the Orthodox, who generally make less pronouncements than the Vatican tends to, condemned the papacy as a major heresy in 1848:

        ” 2. Hence have arisen manifold and monstrous heresies which the Catholic Church, even from her infancy, has been forced to combat with the panoply of God, and ‘ the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God,’ and has triumphed over all unto this day, and will triumph to the end, ever shining forth brighter and stronger after the struggle.

        ” 3. Of these heresies some have altogether perished, some are in their decline, but others nourish more or less, until the time of their overthrow, when, being struck with the lightning of the anathema of of the seven (Ecumenical Synods, they become extinct, even though they last for a thousand years; for the orthodoxy of the Catholic Apostolic Church, as inspired by the living Word of God, alone endures for ever, according to the infallible promise of our Lord…—Matt, xviii. 18.

        ” 4. Of these heresies widely-diffused was formerly Arianism, and now is the Papacy, which, though still flourishing, shall, like the former, pass away and be cast down, and a great voice from Heaven shall cry, ‘ It is cast down.’—Rev. xii. 10…

        ” 10. Every one of our brethren and children in Christ clearly perceives that the words of the present Bishop of Rome, like those of his anti-synodical predecessors, are not words of peace and compassion, as he says, but of deceit and quibbling, tending to self-aggrandisement; but the orthodox will not be beguiled therewith, for the Word of the Lord is sure—’ A stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him, for they know not the voice of strangers.’

        (Encyclical Letter of the Eastern Orthodox, 1848. As cited in The Benares magazine, No. 31, 1851. W.H. Haycock, 1851. Original from Oxford University Digitized, Nov 24, 2006, pp. 370-371,373)

        Perhaps it should be mentioned that “Rev. xii. 10” teaches about the “accuser of the brethren” (a reference to Satan in verse 9) being cast down. Thus the Orthodox officially seem to have condemned the papacy as Satan the devil.

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        Do Catholics actually believe all of this? If not, why support its head? Why would God answer prayers on Doctrine that claims itself God Authority which sends those not like it to eternal torment? WHEN THE WORD STATES: God shows no favoritism.

        What if a non catholic, unbaptized man offers to go in your place on a tour because you are not sure of the terrain. He gets killed on the tour. You get word that the terrain is not safe, so you don’t go on the tour. You thank God while the man who took your place goes to eternal torment?

        THINK, PEOPLE … THINK THESE THROUGH—ASK QUESTIONS!

  4. opheliart permalink

    http://jeffreysalkin.religionnews.com/2015/05/21/why-a-real-clergy-person-should-perform-your-wedding/

    This article belongs under this essay … for sure.

    FROM THE ESSAY:

    Religion has been quite the Industry. Look at its product … and look at the numbers growing that see it as inconsequential. These need the pastor for … what? Weddings, funerals … the occasional marital concern … maybe. Who/what may be concerned that it is losing its biggest audience in the lives of the people? Do you even need a priest to know that you are going to be in community with another in the Tradition of Marriage? Do you need a pastor to speak at your sister’s funeral, especially when he may not have heard of her until you called to inform him of her passing? Your sister’s friends, you … your family, have more to say in this than any vocationally ordained minister. Of course, it is your choice in this … or, your sister’s choice—possibly, and … there may be a need for a place for people to gather—to discuss ethics, struggles … home life … relationships and …

    Yes, Religion provides structure but should never exceed Love.

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    Yes, the vocational religious has something to learn from those marrying outside the “norm” of Religious practice. They don’t AGREE on the practice and terms—understanding of its Purpose. They don’t “trust” that the priests/pastor knows what he is talking about regarding marriage-family and … ESPECIALLY WITH CELIBATE PRIESTS … and … they don’t agree with the Doctrine—the Belief System, and therefore feel “uninvited” or not part of that community and prefer not to engage there. They don’t want to be listed in a Denomination’s book and become another number for the Religion to count as “hey look at our numbers” … and … they are not without sense, reason and the ability to understand the issues/concerns/responsibilities through having experienced and witnessed much … many are marrying at an older age, have grown up in DIVORCED family situations or have dozens of friends from divorced situations … having GROWN UP INSULATED IN RELIGIOUS PRACTICES/MARRIAGES … or STRUGGLING TO BREAK FROM THESE (see Irish vote on ssm) … and many have had bad experiences with priests and pastors … and many have have studied and learned much on their own … through various sources-media, also having spent time working in areas helping others … and feel comfortable without the vocational priest, pastor or rabbi.

    • opheliart permalink

      I guess we could say that those choosing to not use vocational religious is an INDEPENDENT group … quite capable of making decisions—good or not so good 😉 and statistics on marriage—divorce … through use of vocational religious tells us what? are we getting into the need for a breakdown here? those marriages having used vocational religious having ended in divorce vs those not?

      • opheliart permalink

        we have been researching and researching on this through real life experiences … not just statistics copy-pasted … and we are writing on this in BC, The Trilogy. 🙂

        there is going to be a struggle in these arenas … no question about it. we have been watching this, and following its curve. the vocational religious are going to be challenged in ways they never experienced before or thought possible.

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