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Anti-what? (part 2)

January 20, 2015

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/what-pegida-lutz-bachmanns-anti-muslim-protest-group-stomping-through-germany-1481947

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11344312/Is-Germany-on-a-collision-course-over-Islamisation-and-immigration.html

 

We are not Political, but we occasionally share articles having to do with Politics and, we share in essays having to do with Religion, as we see Religion and Politics as brothers. We refrain from the mobilization of the causes of these. This does not mean we hide from the truth in what is going on—far from it.

The articles above are a continuation of what we shared in the previous essay. We said we would research this and we have … to a small degree. Getting quotes directly from the source is very important. Having others “explain” for or against what an individual stands for or works toward can end up misdirecting the voice, meaning, the intent of the voice. Some try to make a source look “good” and some try to make a source look “bad”. It’s difficult to get to the truth because of all the voices. One has to gain a clear understanding of WHERE each voice comes from.

1. If supporting Religion, which one?

2. Which tenets-principles within the Religion?

3. If supporting Policies, which one(s)?

4. Who benefits most from the Policies?

 

If a country is open to accepting all refugees and immigrants, and along with these, ALL THEIR BELIEFS and PRACTICES …  where will the country find itself? How will a nation manage its Policies and Religions? Who benefits MOST from allowing this “free for all” ? It would depend on where each resident is in his place: home, mindset, situation, beliefs, practices … desires, wants, aspirations, dreams, goals … including his own Religion and Policy (civil administration, citizen, city, policing …).

 

Excerpt from the article added in the previous essay:

The group says it has no ambitions to become a political party but has published a 19-point manifesto which calls for “zero tolerance towards criminal immigrants and asylum seekers” and says it aims to protect “Judeo-Christian” values.

It also urges tolerance for integrated Muslims but opposes “economic refugees” coming to Germany and what it terms “misogynist, violent” ideology.

 

************opposes economic refugees.  We looked up “economic refugee”.

An economic refugee is a person whose economic prospects have been devastated and seeks to escape oppressive poverty either here in the United States or across the globe. Because of global socio economic injustice issues, many of these economic refugees tend to be immigrants from third world countries. In such a case, having tried everything else to fight for change in the living conditions of their original countries, the only option that many immigrants or economic refugees, find themselves with is to ensure the survival and well-being of their families and thus join or take refuge in the United States’ job market. Because of recent Wall Street and other stock exchange meltdowns due to outrageous corporate greed, the term could very well be applicable to Americans citizens living in the United States and other citizens of the world still reeling from personal economic devastations.
The use of the term “economic refugee” can be tracked as far back to the late 1990’s and it is sometimes used in place of other terms (such as “illegal immigrant”, “undocumented immigrant”, “illegal alien”, etc.) when discussing immigration policy. http://www.economicrefugee.net/what-does-economic-refugee-mean/

 

Where it says the only option that many immigrants or economic refugees, find themselves with is to ensure the survival and well-being of their families …we would add, is to ensure the survival and well-being of their families AND THEIR RELIGION, which includes their beliefs, practices …

Okay, let’s look at “the place”.

The stage: a small community with five churches (2 Catholic: Polish and Roman, 2 “Protestant”, 1 Synagogue) and several public schools (two lower, one middle and one upper).

The government finds homes for 200 economic refugees within this small community. The Religious belief of these immigrants is that they do not believe in artificial birth control and there is the desire, dream, wish, goal to increase the family … so, each family receiving from the government/community whatever they need to get started in their new homes … within five years, roughly how many family members will there be? And how is the community changed? Has anyone done any research on how often a family gives birth based on their Religion ?

The following is one source:

Several factors account for the faster projected growth among Muslims than non-Muslims worldwide. Generally, Muslim populations tend to have higher fertility rates (more children per woman) than non-Muslim populations. In addition, a larger share of the Muslim population is in, or soon will enter, the prime reproductive years (ages 15-29). Also, improved health and economic conditions in Muslim-majority countries have led to greater-than-average declines in infant and child mortality rates, and life expectancy is rising even faster in Muslim-majority countries than in other less-developed countries. (See the section on Main Factors Driving Population Growth for more details. For a list of Muslim-majority countries and definitions for the terms less- and more-developed, see the section on Muslim- Majority Countries.)

http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/the-future-of-the-global-muslim-population/

 

I guess a question one might ask  …  with the growing number of “nones” (no religious affiliation), secularists and Atheists, according to Religious News articles, why are the no-religion types not more concerned with growing Religious of a different face, especially Religious of strict Dogma? Why aren’t these more concerned with the advance of a discriminating, and often oppressive and misogynistic ideal and principle in their communities? There is a lot of attack on conservative Christian “morals”, and we understand why this is, but while another sect, far more conservative (in scope, because we cannot deny that Christianity has evolved in many areas), grows worldwide, why don’t we see the same concern?

It’s just a matter of time before the Politicians converge for their apostate agenda. Politicians will jump ship to get what they want for party purposes.

Where does this leave the women and children? What do the communities end up looking like—in terms of healthy growth, not mass produced, or “accommodated” to please the Party Image? Are these “newcomers” interested in addressing our concerns about Climate Change, pollution, waste, denigration of Wildlife, Land and Seas? What are the eating habits of these, fashion, interests, including habits of the existing, and how these may change, and will these devastate important Resources?

Are some (groups) so insulated, regardless of belief, that they cannot see ahead in this? Are these folks only interested in Policy and Dollars and Cents that they have lost all SENSE OF REASON in how history repeats, and never learn from the push for self-agenda?

 

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Also, a continuation from a previous essay …

RE: the Roman Pontiff on “breeding like rabbits”

On the plane, he indirectly criticized rich countries and international organizations he said tried to influence lifestyles and morals of young people in poorer nations, comparing their activity to that of 20th century Nazi and Fascist propagandists.

He told of an education minister he once knew who was offered loans to build schools for the poor, but on condition their libraries stocked a book on gender theory, the questioning of traditional male and female roles. He gave no other details.

“This is ideological colonization. They colonize people with ideas that try to change mentalities or structures,” he said.

“But this is not new. This was done by the dictatorships of the last century,” he said, citing the Hitler Youth and Balilla, its Italian equivalent under Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-birth-control-ban-doesnt-mean-breed-190535033.html

 

Dictators influenced how—by what? Seriously, Fran, you do know how to point the fingers at your own 🙂

 

OUR QUESTION is and always has been:  what makes YOUR SYSTEM OF BELIEF, which is clearly of an indoctrinating mentality and lifestyle based on your limited understanding of verse (and might we remind him of the many passages in Holy Scripture teaching on this) the correct way? The correct way for all people? Your IDEOLOGY called the Church which is actually The Roman Catholic Church is not God, the Spirit, or even close to drawing near to that which is One in Truth. When you realize how far you have fallen is when you will realize how far you need to come. Jesus teaches us this! Deny this and you live in darkness. You have allowed yourself to be deceived into thinking that your System is God’s Worth. You have no idea what is PROPHESIED, or even what PROPHESY means, or you would not be as you are. GOD’S TIME, Fran, not man’s time … Get with the poignancy of this, please!

Fran, that “pit” is an avenging circumstance … as many will soon find out. Things are coming that will blast your ideals all to pieces, and where will you and your people be in that sinking ship? And this is NOT a promotion of the secular cause, nor is it the get rich agenda you b**** about all the time. You have been born and raised into a certain RELIGIOUS Belief System, with all things filtered through a limited lens. Try stepping out, sir … breathe a different Life … while you still can. Allow for the study on the MYSTERIES … the Mystical Life … TRUTH ON THE WORD, not man’s functionality. You torched my family with your honorific fumes of self-deceit …

 

enough now … enough.

 

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Honestly, I see us leaving the States, and going where Spirrealism can breathe. I am not seeing REVOLUTIONARY PURPOSE in America, at least not in the Spiritual Sense. We are serious about this. Down the road? Yes, it will be needed, but in the meantime … there will be a collapse. It is only when people feel in the pit that they begin to reach.

 

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Let’s look at what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 2. 7 …

7 But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 But, as it is written,

“What no eye has seen, nor ear heard,
nor the heart of man imagined,
what God has prepared for those who love him”—
10 these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. 13 And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.[a]

14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16 “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. 

 

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Peace and Love

 

Added 1-21-15

This is one reason we don’t align with RELIGION, CAUSES, and the like … some jokes just aren’t funny, and send the wrong message.

interesting that the link says “priest” … ?

http://news.yahoo.com/german-priest-muzzled-speaking-anti-islam-protest-114856729.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 Comments
  1. opheliart permalink

    Folks, if wondering why we stopped sharing from a certain set of articles … it’s primarily because it is time to move on. This is what we are about—movement. Growth. To stay is to fray.

    Also, there are one or two regular commenters on the articles that are an insult to the ears—quite seriously. These are like the scene described in the previous essay (Anti-what?), shouting into their microphones the same old rhetoric, which goes nowhere.

    Peace

  2. opheliart permalink

    In keeping with what is written in the essays, Cast Dyed, The Language of the Carriage and Truth of Consequence … and what is understood on pope fran’s “breeding like rabbits” …

    read the story of the Dutch painter, Vemeer. he married a catholic girl at age 21. he died at age 43 (according to family: having gone from a healthy man to ‘dead’ in one and a half days … due to the STRESS of not enough income and a large family).

    VEMEER’s wife gave birth to 15 children in 22 years. they had moved into his mother-in-law’s house in oude langendijk … which was almost next door to a hidden jesuit church (look it up).

    several questions come to light in this, besides the stress of so many children without the ability to feed them …

    1. poor pastoring from the catholic priests?
    2. was the town of delft not catholic enough?
    3. was it a convenient circumstance that vemeer’s wife live so close to the jesuits
    4. were all those children vemeer’s children? (4 died before baptism according to the records)
    5. what happened to the children? did they live much the same? did they become nuns and priests?

    what is the truth about vemeer, his wife and the jesuits?

    vemeer converted to catholicism to marry … he was buried in a protestant cemetery.

    vemeer used expensive art supplies in his painting. did any of these supplies cause any change in vemeer?

    *sadly, everything pretty much got dumped into the waters

    peace

    • opheliart permalink

      the truth is … the priests and bishops– have been busy in ways not seen by the communities … the question is, by whose authority?

      the answer, my friend, is blowin’ in the wind … the answer is blowin’ in the wind …

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